What Would an Enlightened World look like?

[QandC]

Imagine if suddenly everyone on the planet would awaken to the Truth of reality and existence and they would realise their own Ego – basically everyone would become enlightened

 

What would happen? Would it become a utopia? Would people drop their beliefs? Would people become confused? Would politics look different? Would there be war? Would society advance or stagnate? 

[SoonHei]

i guess the scene would all look quite weird... the wars and fights would def end...

 

we would behave like how large animals colonies behave? all living together, taking care of one an other etc

 

also. seeing as reality contains all possible scenarios, that scenario where all are enlightened already exists 

 

but then again, since all is possible. there would be a version of enlightened world where despite enlightenment, war is on-going

 

enlightenment primarily would be there would be no egos / suffering around - what happens in terms of action or happenings can still have an infinite range of possibilities  

[hundreth]

It would look exactly like this...

[AlwaysBeNice]

Exactly like this, lights, sounds, sensations.

The problem is the ego, not the appearance. 

 

And hypothetical philosophizing is a true cancer of mind,

it hides itself as useful,

but it actually creates completely artificial ideas of right and wrong,

has no real useful connection to your true life 99% of the time,

just to make your ego feel like it matters.

Edited September 7, 2018 by AlwaysBeNice

[cetus]

@QandC Here's something to ponder. If a meteor was going to wipe out an entire planet of enlightened beings, if they could would they stop it from happening?

[RichardY]

I think people would stop asking for opinions.

[QandC]

34 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@QandC Here's something to ponder. If a meteor was going to wipe out an entire planet of enlightened beings, if they could would they stop it from happening?

Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water

After enlightenment chop wood, carry water

I don't think actions of humanity and collective compassion would change, in fact I think it would increase. Therefore they would do as much as they could to stop it, just like they would before enlightenment. A person can be enlightened and still have opinions about something and society can still carry on. There's just the realisation that no one is doing it, but the acceptance of  a natural process playing itself perfectly. 

So is the "meteor" a natural process that should not be stopped? Well in that case the scenario where they stop it from happening is just as much a natural process, without labels of "but they know they don't exist so why try to stop it?" 

Edited September 7, 2018 by QandC

[ajasatya]

2 hours ago, QandC said:

What Would an Enlightened World look like?

this very moment

[cetus]

@QandC Would stopping the meteor be resisting what is? 

[RichardY]

@cetus56 You said they could stop it, so wouldn't stopping it be a question of cost?

[QandC]

4 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@QandC Would stopping the meteor be resisting what is? 

Through an egoic perspective – Yes

Through an enlightened 'perspective' – No, because everything that is happening, whether or not it is (through language, logic and moralising) resisting/trying to change, is in fact the natural process of the universe

This is a paradox unless we are able to step out of ego

[Forestluv]

The mind can become fixated that enlightenment is “out there”, in some other time or place. The mind thinks it is something to be found, learned, visited, or experienced.

Rather than asking “what would enlightenment look like?”, try asking “what would it look like if everything was as it is?”. . . . It’s not very satisfying o the mind

[cetus]

2 minutes ago, QandC said:

Through an egoic perspective – Yes

Through an enlightened 'perspective' – No, because everything that is happening, whether or not it is (through language, logic and moralising) resisting/trying to change, is in fact the natural process of the universe

This is a paradox unless we are able to step out of ego

@QandC Good point. I guess it's all about how enlightened they are. An understanding beyond paradox.

[QandC]

@Serotoninluv True. 

Now I don't know if you are "enlightened" (the word, REMEMBER, does not make anything justice here but we have to use our limited language to discuss these things) or have experienced enlightenment before or Truth of reality or whatever label we wanna put onto it. But I can tell you that the magnitude of realisation and 'experience' of it is huge. It is enormous. It is infinite. It is not a small "oh I see"-type of understanding. That is why I am asking the question.

[Joseph Maynor]

It would be a world that collapses into one Consciousness.  In other words, the only world that exists is Me.  It would be a world of one God Awareness looking down on and through Maya a.k.a. Thought and Experience.

Edited September 7, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Misagh]

The world @Joseph Maynor described is the world we have right now. A world where every soul is enlightened would not look any different from the world we have right now. 

[Forestluv]

1 minute ago, Misagh said:

The world @Joseph Maynor described is the world we have right now. A world where every soul is enlightened would not look any different from the world we have right now. 

Yes. It’s nowhere to be found. It’s right here and now. We are always 0 steps from enlightenment.

[Jack River]

16 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

The mind can become fixated that enlightenment is “out there”, in some other time or place. The mind thinks it is something to be found, learned, visited, or experienced.

Rather than asking “what would enlightenment look like?”, try asking “what would it look like if everything was as it is?”. . . . It’s not very satisfying o the mind

 

11 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

Yes. It’s nowhere to be found. It’s right here and now. We are always 0 steps from enlightenment.

Yep. Every step is a movement of time. Nice dude 

Edited September 8, 2018 by Jack River

[Haumea2018]

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Through an enlightened 'perspective' – No, because everything that is happening, whether or not it is (through language, logic and moralising) resisting/trying to change, is in fact the natural process of the universe

Of course they would change it if they could.  Everything that's happening including them trying to stop a meteor is the natural process of the universe.  How is passivity a requirement of enlightenment?

Enlightenment is not to be confused with detachment or resignation or non-action. Enlightenment is action without identification.

It's like asking, what if a fist of some guy was travelling towards an enlightened person's face: would he stop it?

I'd say if his reflexes were fast enough he certainly would.

(Having said that, some enlightened people are genuine recluses, but only a small minority perhaps.)

 

 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Haumea2018