Do you think as an artist that repetition like in this video

[Strikr]

is the key to understanding the whole art domain ?, things like even playing/writting music or written a fiction.

Practice everyday, but how can you practice everyday the least to have the most ? do you know what I mean, is grindind endlessly all there is to be the best ?

can you makes the grind efficient ? ( in my case as the identity of a writter of electronic music ( I know it's a identity case, musician, artist, human, choose it ) 

do you think that harass the mind with repetition / memory muscle on pattern is the best way to improve ? work everyday until you failed so much that know you're better than the one who doesn't fail enough ?

 

You should watch this video to get maybe what I m talking about and even as a non artist ( and maybe even more if you're not an artist ) we all are ?

 

is all there is to each type of learning art domain ? can you learn more fast, more efficient, but in such a way that you overcome billions hours of grinding ?

to me the best way was learning about full awareness and full attention, and no distraction to learn and muscle memory, messing with things until I get how it interact, just toying around, but with mindfulness ( I kind of fighted a lot to understand the state, so I m still currently improving those area, hence this topic )

but is there way to improve this to a higher higher higher lvl like picking this god insight but being in flow with it ( instead of being in flow with the external object of our focus ? )

If there was a "higher lvl" to my maze,

to connect with the wholeness of a domain and makes the mind only be in a permenant flow states.

Is OVERUNDERSTANDING every concept of the art, on every perspective, every alternated states, in every trying, in every manner, in every metaphysical experience you can have, " the only way ? " ( try to not be deep on the "only way" ) is "work/acting on/pushing through", all there is ? 

I work on the foundation of how I work, having a solid ground before building big building on sand. Is there only sand ? can I have a solid boat on the desert of sand ?

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[Soulbass]

@Strikr what genre(s) ?

The Science of Art, A Neurological Theory of Aesthetic Experience :

http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~hertzman/courses/csc2521/fall_2007/ramachandran-science-art.pdf

 

 

 

[Strikr]

I have already watched the second video, and I have finish the first :> as I agree, the second video helped me so much when I was thinking so much more in a box in the past. What was weird, is, as a kid, I always did iterative drawing, kind of autist I've always been.

I m reading the book it picked my curiosity sound resonating, cheer up mate

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[Soulbass]

@Strikr Well then I think most of the work is done by practice/grind.

The most important thing is to have an emotional connection with your work, and make no concession.

Where are you from ?

[Strikr]

France

believe me I have a high connection with my music ( I can dance hours with rage without any thought but feeling it through my vains, I even try to become one with the sound, and enjoy every tiny detail, as the bigger emphasis on the whole idea ( that was where I was when I started, then I dig deep and deep.. until I fall in a box haha )

I was too critic after begginer phase. and boxed me ( as an intuit basic guy, I started being analytical ) everything was flow states and unfinished work, but then the problem was finishing almost reversed after grinding a lot. ( kind of loose intuit for drawing hard line, and not remove things in the bigger idea.. boxed like a rat )

 

I m working on making the mind pattern of intuit more back by drawing with my full intuit ( maybe a weird way to increase my music.. by drawing but still, I think it helped a lot with the part of my mind who want to create solid line on everything, ( now there is almost none, everything is slimy in my hand, every sound is shape of noise I just feel )

With drawing I m really a bird, I just draw for fucksake and don't care about anything but fun drawing, thing is, It was like this for me, for the 2000 first hours of music creation ( and then it become more and more "grind" than discovery ) ( mostly sound engineering in fact, more than music, I wanted the graphic result, the sound to sound FAT and CLEAN ) when it was not fat, clean, I solve the maze ( take me years to figure out how perspective / difference in intensity : matter in the sense of music/mixing ) I probably losted myself in the mathematical aspect of sound design.

So intuit on solid background knowledge to resolve any problems ( it's almost done, I know why things don't work together or it work and why, it tooks me 3 years to get where I think is now a solid ground for myself, in almost any case ). All my family is made of computer programmer/designer, I ve always been a nerd/geek, with a fake extraverted personality.

 

, now everything sound a bit puzzled out, so it loosed his magic, I know exactly how are build what was fancy to me before, know it sound like me reading music code, I could make it, work long on it, but I don't feel the chase for the puzzle (and I still enjoy music a lot, it's just the whole process, sometimes.. ) maybe contre intuitively taking a break could be the best thing I can do for my music. ( and being against all principle of working daily ? )

 

, ( it's mostly bass music, very emphasis the emotion of my own will ( to me ) )

 ( it's mostly dubstep that I aim for what we call today dubstep ( not skrillex related ), so many "box rules" about proportion of things against others things ( or you'll sound OUT of the big picture of creating a trance like ambiant in a scene ) like artist who play you, don't play you if you're out of the box too much ( they can't mix your part, because you start too soon, too early your emphasis, they can't take your sound if your "kick/snare" are weak, in fact, as your sound will be put in another draw, you should make it fit a bit like a lego ) but even in lego there is infinite possibility. ( maybe it answer to people : why electronic music kind of sound the same ? )

I always tryed to put my sound in the "rule" but learning rule was a real good thing anyway ( I was overbreaking everything to the point of having no ground in everything )

it created for me a solid ground where there was none, so when I create even OST music for instance, I always have a "background" where I know how things are in the "big picture of what I have as "basic grounded understanding" ( aka my all my old music project )

I do not fear not having a work anymore ( there is social help up to 500€ a month without doing any work at 25, so I do not fear the " no job no food " ) but that's easy as I live with my mother ( she is never at home, I just use the best ground I have.. would be stupid to quit mum house, as she don't asked me for it at all, she even cheer me in my project and believe in my work )

 ( that was my fear who put me to work for insane time and taking huge amount of doping stuff to make it through and fast ( like weed ) 

it's maybe a bit classic monkey pursuit, but everything is a monkey pursuit, I just choose this one, provide me with the best human life currently.

 

 I love it, it speaks to me, music isn't a thing, music is my cult, my religion, my girlfriend, my drug, my breath, my call, my lord, my god, my only love. Maybe I m taking it too seriously ? anyway I m reading the book and like what is written so far.

 

I just need more awareness maybe ? something to control even more my thought, having this happy intuit to draw/write without wanting any solid result, don't try to aim for fitting the box, just draw my shit, and then box them at their best ( my new way of thinking ). ( I m still figuring things out )

 

the only problem with my work, is having tired ears and maybe having started only 3/4 years ago, I m asking myself if observing with full attention/awareness is better than keep grinding mindlessly with no real background foundation/goal.

yes I could create something original, very deep, very intense, very artistic, very myself, but that would not give me a single penny at the end ( because people would not get it )

I have to survive and fill up the first part of the pyramid before wanting to transcend myself at the higher peak,

does I m wrong in the path I want to have ?

I like to be decoding things, maybe that's who am I even more than being musician, but I have to finish my first path before grounding myself in "higher states" keep the grounding in blabla thinking, it helped me so I can be wrong only from another pespective who don't need mine.

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[Soulbass]

I feel you, see video "Setting Proper Expectations" by Leo.

France, too.

Dubstep : UK scene in the 90's ?

 

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[Strikr]

Je vais devoir faire une mini parenthèse avant de te dire ce que j'aime en dubstep :> ( et forcément je fais une parenthèse sur mon background .. ) ( même si je comprend le concept de non dualité et d'identité, et j'ai maté toute les vidéos de léo en entier. )

j'aime toute la musique en général, de Mozart à Booba en passant par des OST  de jeremy soule.

J'ai toujours tout aimé dans la musique, mais je me suis jamais lançé à cause de supposition infantile ( uniquement l'élite .., uniquement les gens qui ont les studios pour.. , uniquement les gens qui ont commencés tôt ), pour ça que j'ai commencé à me lancer dedans sérieusement qu'à 20/21 ans ( en étant en étude de cinéma, cinéma ou j'ai grindé près d'un millier de film en 2 ans, je voulais vraiment être un réal à l'époque  ) ( j'ai 24 ) Quand j'ai vue l'avancé technologique chez un pote et les résultats "maisons" je me suis lancé assez vite dedans..

j'ai découvert super tard la qualité du son sur monitoring aussi, là c'était le pas qui m'a poussé dans l'addiction à la musique.

j'ai toujours eu un sentiment spécial pour la dubstep avec adventure club, puis au final j'ai rencontré des gens qui étaient à fond dedans et comme j'ai toujours était un pure fan de metal/banger head ( rammstein, soad, les classiques et quelques groupes norvégiens )

à vrai dire, j'écoutais de loin l'electro ( mon portable était bourré de tout, même de kpop, c'est dire à quel point j'ai toujours vécu librement ma sexualité musique, comme une prostituée diront certains.. je me souviens encore de ce moment à la cantine ou un pote m'a emprunté mon phone ( ouai il voulait savoir ce que j'écoute ), donc il à écouté une dizaine de tracks je dirais ( 20 min ) puis m'a dis, t'es complètement possédé !  :'( .. )  

j'ai une grosse culture dubstep actuel, j'essaye de me fixer dedans, car mon souci c'était de vouloir tout faire et tout maîtriser

ma culture dub est complètement inexistante avant 2012, je pourrais même carrément dire que "je suis un producteur de riddim dubstep" ( du moins j'essaye de me caser vers là ) plutôt que de dubstep.

 

En France on a une vrai culture du dubstep actuel ( riddim ) tu trouves pas  :> juste une impression peut être

Il y a bientôt graphyt et ecraze dans ma ville et je pense qu'après ce concert ce sera enlightment direct haha. Après j'aime bien aussi la bass dubstep plus classique avec la vibe 90' à force de me gaver de son, je fini toujours par me tourner vers des trucs expérimentaux à la longue 

Je sais pas, j'aime la musique, je me définis.. mais pas vraiment, être un artiste c'est déjà bien.

et toi ? du coup tu es musicien en France ? raconte moi, en fait je raconte ma vie facile mais c'est pas intéressant, j'ai juste la pensée fluide et j'ai aussi voulu être écrivain à certains moment haha ( je suis un flow permenant, ce qui fait beaucoup de bordel ), parfois on prend ça pour de l'égo, mais moi je suis un peu maladif à l'idée de "pas être bien compris" surtout quand je veux transmettre une idée 

Après mes seconds genre d'attention : psytrance / wave trap / futur heavy bass (k?d)

 

Edited September 5, 2018 by Strikr

[Soulbass]

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