What are your experiences with kambo and bufo alvarius ?

[Lynnel]

I'm thinking about taking the same retreat as @Ar_Senses who posted about it recently.

Only after some research I'm starting to doubt a bit. 

The 4 days retreat costs 500 €. It includes one kambo ceremony and one or two bufo alvarius trips.

First kambo does seem quite toxic to be honest and not that beneficial. Experiences can be very different plus I mean -frog venom !

I don't exactly feel ready for 5 meo dmt either. Also it's not pure and contains another form of dmt and dr. Rettig is basically eyeballing your doze with smoke. 

What would be the pro's and con's ? 

I also seem to look at it as some sort of magic pill which will bring a lot of change and I feel I'm gonna be disapointed to be honest.

I'm lost between logical arguments and my ego making excuses I'm also afraid of full blown ego death in case that would happen. In short - difficult call.

Leo at some point even talked down ayahuasca because it was way more unstable than a chemical ingredient if I remember correctly.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Lynnel