Bufo Alvarius Toad Venom % contents and tips? (5-MeO)

[Shadowraix]

5-MeO-DMT is a more rare substance to get ahold of than N-N-DMT but one option is to get the straight toad venom. I know this isn't entirely 5-MeO-DMT and also contains Bufotenin. (5-HO-DMT)

How much of the toad venom is actually 5-MeO and can I straight up smoke it? Will the 5-HO differ the experience and how much is 5-HO vs 5-MeO. I'm wondering if in a financial sense if N-N-DMT will be more viable right now. 

I do have some pure recreational curiosity intent but I also am curious on both substances for some personal development work.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Shadowraix

[Shadowraix]

44 minutes ago, DrMobius said:

The venom only contains up to 15% of 5-MeO-DMT and Bufotenin is present in larger quantities, so it would indeed interfere with the expected results. I would advise against smoking the venom unless you really know what you're doing, because there were several reported cases of poisoning.

Check out https://www.dmt-nexus.me or http://www.dmtsite.com if you're looking for extraction techniques. Also check out the bibliographies of James Oroc, Martin Ball and the likes. I fear there aren't a lot of experts on this forum when it comes to this specific subject.

In my opinion dealing with the venom isn't really worth the trouble. I'd rather encourage you to spend this time finding a reliable vendor that would provide you with 99% pure 5-MeO, usually with perfectly appropriate prices as well.

Much appreciated information! I think for now I will shoot for N-N-DMT as I am sure it has plenty to offer for my intents and in the meantime I will find a fairly priced vendor of pure 5-MeO.

[Leo Gura]

@Shadowraix Venom can ONLY be smoked/vaporized. You cannot consume it any other way as the smoking burns off the other stuff in venom, which is what you want. Who knows what kind of nasty toxins are in that venom.

From what I understand the Bufotinine will mostly burn off or get overshadowed by the 5-MeO so the % does not really matter. You'd just want to start with a really small dose and work your way up inch by inch. Smoked 5-MeO is extremely fast and hard-hitting.

[Shadowraix]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Shadowraix Venom can ONLY be smoked/vaporized. You cannot consume it any other way as the smoking burns off the other stuff in venom, which is what you want. Who knows what kind of nasty toxins are in that venom.

From what I understand the Bufotinine will mostly burn off or get overshadowed by the 5-MeO so the % does not really matter. You'd just want to start with a really small dose and work your way up inch by inch. Smoked 5-MeO is extremely fast and hard-hitting.

Yeah I didn't know if the actual extracted venom could be smoked or if there was some extra extraction process necessary.

All the toxins and bufotinine getting burned off is something I did not consider. (Although I have no experience smoking any substance beyond weed and I know DMT is a tricky drug to smoke, maybe DMT smoking experience would aid me here?)

I am a bit on a budget and im in a situation in which financials matter so the maximum drug/price possible matters a bit (not my decision) so I think I will reserve any receiving of 5-meo to when its for sole personal use not grounded in a budget.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Shadowraix

[Leo Gura]

@Shadowraix

Vaporizing 5-MeO is a bit tricky. You'll probably burn it a few times before you get the technique down.

Glass Vapor Genie is the best tool for vaporizing DMT.