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Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

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3 hours ago, DoubleYou said:

The question is, is it really possible to literally win capitalism, by being the richest guy on the planet, while also saving the planet at the same time?

Personally, I think the two are polar opposites. You don't just end up on top of the food chain by caring about your surroundings. The system isn't designed like that. It's survival. To win capitalism, you have to put profit above all else, which is literally the opposite of saving the planet, or putting all else first. And then we look at those people to save us.

This is the problem with modern philanthropy. It's only the greediest, most ambitious ones that suddenly find themselves in places of power to produce actual lasting change. And they won't... Time and time again. This is not a coincidence. You can't just shift from egoic greed to selflessness overnight. Yet that's exactly what we expect from people like Bezos or Elon Musk. But they're businessmen, and businessmen first. Otherwise they wouldn't have made it this far. Any other way, the system would have obliterated them.

I think looking at these people as the saviours of humanity is a big mistake. The same way looking at presidents to fix all of our problems is. Saving humanity, or rather moving humanity forward, takes heart and actual care. Which takes time, effort and spiritual growth. Lots of it. By all of us. Not just that one rich guy. If we as a collective want to see a more unified planet, we have to stop putting all of our faith in individuals. Sure, they can help. But not by themselves.

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^ How a typical stage green person demonizes capitalism

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39 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

^ How a typical stage green person demonizes capitalism

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On 1/26/2021 at 10:04 AM, Raphael said:

 

Wow! Great ones. Haven't watched Mr. Robot but looks like a good show. 

Was reminded of this Eddie Vedder song from Into The Wild: 

 

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30 minutes ago, tuckerwphotography said:

Wow! Great ones. Haven't watched Mr. Robot but looks like a good show.

This show is phenomenal, my favorite show of all time. There's also a lot of references to consciousness and questions about reality.

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"Inclusiveness, everyone gets an opportunity

Don’t exclude anyone

Tolerance"

 

Green actually takes a far stronger stance against inclusivity (as such) then the stage before it, rightfully, thankfully, neccesarily.

'Far from everyone gets an oppertunity' would be a more like it. Interestingly enough that is but an outcome in the orange societies, and never an axiom as it is in the green.

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The Global Commission on Drug Policy was created in January 2011 by a group of personalities from the Americas and Europe, including former Heads of State and Government wishing to inspire better drug policy globally. Over almost 10 years now, membership grew to encompass Commissioners from around the world. Global leaders from the political, economic and cultural arenas, aware of the failure of the current drug control regime, felt that they must advocate for drug policies based on scientific evidence, human rights, public health, and security, leaving no-one behind.

https://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/

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Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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