Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

[Rilles]

 

[Raze]

 

[TrustTheProcess]

32 minutes ago, Raze said:

 

oh god...

[Preety_India]

I think there is a tendency to make fun of stage Green and to paint it in a negative way. Like they are childish bobble heads. 

But remember that there are hardcore activitists out there who fight and even sacrifice their lives so that certain marginalized groups can get justice or basic rights. These are not crazy people 

Maybe from the comfort of your room, everything looks crazy. Look at people who are actually doing something rather than some flippant people on YouTube making ridiculous calls and use that to stereotype Stage Green. 

Please don't do this. 

There is both healthy and unhealthy Green. Realize this please. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Some Green folk are nuts.

When left-wingers go too far into their upotian socialist ideals, they lose touch with the pragmatics of survival.

Ideas such as abolishing the police, military, and open borders will never work within our lifetimes. Although they are great ideas for later on, let's say in 500 years when the whole world has a higher standard of living where everyone is able to shop at Wholefoods.

[Preety_India]

@Leo Gura  should that be cherry picked and used to describe the entire group at stage Green. 

Also stage Green is pretty high up there, you can't simply bypass it go to Tier 2, so you would have to have healthy aspects of Green in you to begin with. 

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

should that be cherry picked and used to describe the entire group at stage Green.

We do that with each stage, so it's fair game. There do exist some extreme examples of Green, just like with any stage below it.

It's good to study the extremes of each stage, and also the healthy center.

[Preety_India]

 

Just now, Leo Gura said:

We do that with each stage, so it's fair game. There do exist some extreme examples of Green, just like with any stage below it.

Agreed 

[Rilles]

Deep...

And then funny... 

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Rilles

[supremeyingyang]

@Rilles

That Turner/Sagan Video is Basic, but sadly no one gets it.
Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious. Almost no one has a Educational Reform as a Priority, while it's the most effective Method to improve a Society. And I want to get shit done in my life time. I really think my Life Purpose will be around Education, but I don't even have Companions who care.

'Socialism is when the Government does stuff!' - Turns out we already achieved global Socialism, in some Countries even Communism by that Definition :D:D

 

Edited October 17, 2020 by supremeyingyang

[Loving Radiance]

1 hour ago, supremeyingyang said:

Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious. Almost no one has a Educational Reform as a Priority, while it's the most effective Method to improve a Society. And I want to get shit done in my life time. I really think my Life Purpose will be around Education, but I don't even have Companions who care.

+1

If you are seriously passionate about bringing about change and improving society then search for companions:

• Join a party and engage in it
• Search for university discussion groups/communities
• Search (progressive) think tanks with the focus on education

You would strike gold, if you have an inclusive approach for all your fellow citizens. However, even the best policy & system change appraoach requires serious marketing.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, supremeyingyang said:

Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious.

It doesn't have to be tedious.

You can create your own school and enjoy the whole process and serve as a model for the world.

Think outside the box. There are many ways to change the world.

[Loving Radiance]

@Leo Gura There are already many in Germany (where we both live). It just needs awareness through the right marketing & spiral wizardry to influence politics.

@supremeyingyang Actually, transforming a school or already working in a 'conscious' school is a good foundation for greater systemic change. Using the learned wisdom of operating in your school and extrapolating the principles to one state and then on the national level seems to me to be a valid approach.

[Rilles]

Green trolling Blue. 

[Rilles]

12 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Is this too far?

 No, he obviously is drawn to it, noones forcing him. Maybe he will grow out of it, maybe he wont, as long as the kid is happy. 

[Rilles]

3 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

What kind of kid knows they're gay before puberty?

This whole movement of raising kids gender neutral and trans really feels wrong, no kid should be exposed to that kind of material.

Im a guy, I fell in love the first time when I was about 4 years old, I have vivid memories of my first girlfriend and holding hands. I have a gay brother too, he said he always knew, there was no "discovery". Just like there is no discovery when youre straight. 

Whatever you think of raising kids is up to the parents, as long as theyre not hurting the child. You could equally say that forcing a gay/trans-child to be cis or straight is abusive, read up on gender dysphoria, its seriously damaging. 

Edited October 17, 2020 by Rilles

[Peter-Andre]

32 minutes ago, Rilles said:

Whatever you think of raising kids is up to the parents, as long as theyre not hurting the child. You could equally say that forcing a gay/trans-child to be cis or straight is abusive, read up on gender dysphoria, its seriously damaging. 

@Rilles This is a good point. I think a lot of people are forgetting just how much we actually force people to be cishet. When a boy and a girl kiss each other in a children's movie, it's cute, but when two boys kiss, it's seen as "inappropriate" or "forced" and as an attempt to shove homosexuality down people's throats. There is obviously a double standard here.

I think it's important to let children discover their own authentic identities and to help them cultivate it in a healthy way instead of forcing any particular identity on them. Maybe they'll turn out cis or maybe trans. Either way is fine as long as they weren't pressured into it.

[Rolo]

3 hours ago, Rilles said:

Green trolling Blue. 

That was great.

[supremeyingyang]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It doesn't have to be tedious.

You can create your own school and enjoy the whole process and serve as a model for the world.

Think outside the box. There are many ways to change the world.

For now it's very crucial that I focus only on my own apprenticeship. Call it Intuition or whatever. I will have to bust through Obstacles until at least the End of 2021 to get to my Bliss -- while keeping an Eye on the Vision. That will be the hardest part. That I won't be consumed by everyday Life or quit to never pick something idealistic up again. Tough shit. But if it were easy, it would be probably not interesting enough to inspire me.
After that I would be delighted to create a school so that new Ones have more than the University of Youtube..

[Rilles]

So Russell Brand now knows about Spiral Dynamics...