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Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

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@Rilles Yea, there is a lot of distance between low Orange and high Orange. Sometimes SDers get sloppy with distinctions and group them together. 

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2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Forestluv do you mean low orange in the sense toxic orange? 

I'm referring to less developed / immature Orange. This can be expressed as toxic though. 

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Each stage has an entering/PEAK/decline phase, which you could also write blue/orange   ->   ORANGE   ->  orange/green.

In the entering phase Orange looks like the most amazing perspective, something completely new, you might be so enthralled by it you get lost in for years or your entire life.

Decline is more like, "Hm...  this lifestyle/values Isn't doing it for me anymore... what else is there?"

...and remember its just a model so it might not look exactly like this in real life, ballparkin.

 

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I don't knew them before I got a recommendation on Youtube and I immediately thought about this thread. Healthy Green, yay! Enjoy!

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I think there is a tendency to make fun of stage Green and to paint it in a negative way. Like they are childish bobble heads. 

But remember that there are hardcore activitists out there who fight and even sacrifice their lives so that certain marginalized groups can get justice or basic rights. These are not crazy people 

Maybe from the comfort of your room, everything looks crazy. Look at people who are actually doing something rather than some flippant people on YouTube making ridiculous calls and use that to stereotype Stage Green. 

Please don't do this. 

There is both healthy and unhealthy Green. Realize this please. 

 


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Some Green folk are nuts.

When left-wingers go too far into their upotian socialist ideals, they lose touch with the pragmatics of survival.

Ideas such as abolishing the police, military, and open borders will never work within our lifetimes. Although they are great ideas for later on, let's say in 500 years when the whole world has a higher standard of living where everyone is able to shop at Wholefoods.


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@Leo Gura  should that be cherry picked and used to describe the entire group at stage Green. 

Also stage Green is pretty high up there, you can't simply bypass it go to Tier 2, so you would have to have healthy aspects of Green in you to begin with. 

 


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2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

should that be cherry picked and used to describe the entire group at stage Green.

We do that with each stage, so it's fair game. There do exist some extreme examples of Green, just like with any stage below it.

It's good to study the extremes of each stage, and also the healthy center.


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Just now, Leo Gura said:

We do that with each stage, so it's fair game. There do exist some extreme examples of Green, just like with any stage below it.

Agreed 


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Deep...

And then funny... 

 

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@Rilles

That Turner/Sagan Video is Basic, but sadly no one gets it.
Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious. Almost no one has a Educational Reform as a Priority, while it's the most effective Method to improve a Society. And I want to get shit done in my life time. I really think my Life Purpose will be around Education, but I don't even have Companions who care.

'Socialism is when the Government does stuff!' - Turns out we already achieved global Socialism, in some Countries even Communism by that Definition :D:D

 

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1 hour ago, supremeyingyang said:

Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious. Almost no one has a Educational Reform as a Priority, while it's the most effective Method to improve a Society. And I want to get shit done in my life time. I really think my Life Purpose will be around Education, but I don't even have Companions who care.

+1

If you are seriously passionate about bringing about change and improving society then search for companions:

  • Join a party and engage in it
  • Search for university discussion groups/communities
  • Search (progressive) think tanks with the focus on education

You would strike gold, if you have an inclusive approach for all your fellow citizens. However, even the best policy & system change appraoach requires serious marketing.


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3 hours ago, supremeyingyang said:

Offtopic: I contemplate for Years how I could help to Update the Education System in my Land, but it's so tedious.

It doesn't have to be tedious.

You can create your own school and enjoy the whole process and serve as a model for the world.

Think outside the box. There are many ways to change the world.


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@Leo Gura There are already many in Germany (where we both live). It just needs awareness through the right marketing & spiral wizardry to influence politics.

@supremeyingyang Actually, transforming a school or already working in a 'conscious' school is a good foundation for greater systemic change. Using the learned wisdom of operating in your school and extrapolating the principles to one state and then on the national level seems to me to be a valid approach.


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Green trolling Blue. 


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