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Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

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Asexual relationships???

AKA, friendship.


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24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Asexual relationships???

AKA, friendship.

You can have a romantic relationship without involving sexual attraction, just like you can have sex without a romantic component.

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13 hours ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

You can have a romantic relationship without involving sexual attraction, just like you can have sex without a romantic component.

I wonder whether "romantic feelings" could be just a form of sexual attraction, albeit different  from necessarily having the desire to have sex


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1 hour ago, ItsNick said:

I wonder whether "romantic feelings" could be just a form of sexual attraction, albeit different  from necessarily having the desire to have sex

It's not. For most people, their romantic and sexual orientation is the same, but there are people who are cross oriented. Alloromantic asexuals and allosexual aromantics are the most common. I have heard of cross oriented allosexual and alloromantic people as well. Allo meaning to opposite of A when it comes to orientations just in case someone reads this and didn't watch to video.

Luxander went on a rant about people being against the term bi/pan lesbians. One of their reasons is that it's bisexual and pansexual women that only want to date women. That's an example. There's also bisexual heteroromantic people too.

If I had to guess, I'm pansexual aromantic myself. You could say I'm technically grayasexual because of my lack of caring to get laid since there's a label for that too therefore I'd technically be on the spectrum. I'd still say there's a difference between feeling that someone's hot and wanting to be in a romantic relationship with them considering I felt indifferent to the latter. People still get me horny although I'm confused why incels are so mad that they're not getting laid. I find incels unintentionally funny honestly.

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Asexual relationships???

AKA, friendship.

Nah.

Aromantic relationships you could say that for. They're called queerplatonic relationships, but yeah they're a different type of friendship basically.

15 hours ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

You can have a romantic relationship without involving sexual attraction, just like you can have sex without a romantic component.

I don't find this to be hard to grasp at all.

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@Dragon Liege Yeah I know about cross orientations and the terms you used.

I only considered the possibility that perhaps romantic feelings and sexuals feelings cannot be completely seperated. As in, romantic feelings toward someone being some form of sexual attraction that is different from conventional sexual attraction. Because you are still attracted to someone (regardless of their sex or gender) for some reason. I think that maybe that's sexual energy too.

I don't know for sure of course lol, but just thought about it a bit because I found it interesting


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Thought I'd pop in here real quick and give a mention to Daniel Quinn's work, as it was a big influence for my transition in worldview from Orange to Green.

"Ishmael is a 1992 philosophical novel by Daniel Quinn. The novel examines the hidden cultural biases driving modern civilization and explores themes of ethics, sustainability, and global catastrophe. Largely framed as a Socratic conversation between two characters,[1] Ishmael aims to expose that several widely accepted assumptions of modern society, such as human supremacy, are actually cultural myths that produce catastrophic consequences for humankind and the environment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(novel)

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I don't think there's a single person on the planet who's more green than Rob Greenfield. He's the ultimate example of stage green. He even has green in his name lol


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Duncan Trussel is so close to yellow here. He's still in green by shaming people who can't have empathy or compassion for everyone equally but he catches himself  doing this, so I think he's close. He seems high green to me.

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Haven't seen many video game examples listed in this thread, but Undertale is a wonderful example of what a stage Green video game can be. For those unfamiliar, it's basically a deconstructionist take on role playing video games, asks the player to have empathy for the Monsters you encounter on your journey, and challenges them to solve problems through means other than violence.

It manages this while also not taking itself too seriously, and is a humorous game filled with puns and amusing scenarios.
 

 


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I think that alot of nineties Gen X culture that I grew up with can be seen as a sort of transition between the Orange and Green value systems; the Consumerism of Orange mixed with the heart of Green.
 

 

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