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Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

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Brian from London Real. Has some stage yellow but right now with his thing on psychedelics he’s moving into stage green. You can tell he’s approaching psychedelics with dualistic framework. Nonetheless, you can see the transcendence from Orange

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On 7/26/2018 at 1:58 AM, Brittany said:

 

Yes @Brittany, Elin is a true hero, right? 

She delayed a flight for two hours, only to save a criminal Afghanistan man, 52 years of age, who done prison time in the past due to violent criminal behaviour. 

And the 52 year old criminal that she "saved", was put on the very next flight, and in the end Elin only caused a tremendous expensive delay and frustrated people. 

A green "hero" ;)   

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Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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An example of someone who transitioned from orange to green. 


I have permanently locked myself out of my account to force myself to focus on my work. Goodbye.

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Green was created in response to excesses of Orange.

One of Orange's greatest excesses is patent system. Thus, a social movement that argues against patent is arguably Green.

I consider electronic freedom foundation as a Green organization because it thinks patent system is broken.

Pieter Hintjens is Orange-Green because he often talks about how to counteract excesses of Orange in communities while talking about progress.

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On 7/1/2018 at 9:32 AM, Emerald said:

 

 

Genuine stage green, exposing a false notion of stage green (veganism claims to be about empathy but has 0 empathy for non-vegans)

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Excess of stage green, triggering orange:

 

https://incels.me/threads/reminder-that-studycel-retard-moroncel.33521/

While it's in excess, it's good to have empathy for people who aren't straight-A students and rid yourself of stage orange programming, once you strip yourself of delusions like "everything is your fault" and "just world fallacy" then you will be stage green

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@StardewValley wanted to post that one. it's such a perfect example of the transition

 

btw the dude has depression and such, those aren't characteristics of spiral dynamics

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An interesting Green vs. Orange/Blue debate on a hot social issue.

 

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On 01/07/2018 at 0:09 AM, Leo Gura said:

Relationships, bonding

  • Free love, intimate sex
  • Sex education

Hmm...ok good, but I'm not exactly sure what is going on in the relationship section of the forum when ppl are saying that they are into open relationships. A few years ago, I knew of this girl who got AIDS after having 5 bfs. This was in the US. She suffered a very painful death. In other countries, like in "3rd world" countries, you could catch AIDS and other STDs very easily. It's in abundance, esp if you're poor and don't have the money to go to a good hospital. 

Also, I met a polygamist in real life (not in the US). He has 2 wives and 2 sets of children, living in different houses. The wives don't work and don't talk to each other. I could understand this better.  He's a very responsible man who could afford and manage 2 families. At least the children know who is their father. They get to see him everyday.

At least when you get married and have children, you'll know how precious time is and learn more responsibilities. It's a tough situation that could take you by surprise if you don't know what it is and can't adjust to it. Marrying into polygamy if you're a man has more responsibilities than monogamy. Polyandrus women have to manage two or more husbands, which is challenging. At least you're responsible and gaining tons of skills by managing multiple families and raising children. 

What's there to learn in just getting laid? It's just pleasure and distraction from the real work, which involves your life purpose + spiritual path. 

I noticed after I wrote this, there is a difference in the definitions of polygamy and just "getting laid." The real polygamist doesn't try to avoid responsiblies by dumping his wives and children. He's a real man. If he falls in love with a 3rd girl, he marries her and have children with her. He wants his children to be raised well.

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Open relationships / polyamory is a different area than polygamy.

I’ve recently expanded my consciousness in this area. I was raised in a fundamental catholic house. I was conditioned with strong beliefs in favor of monogamy, marraige and children. Last year, in an effort to be radically open-minded and challenge my beliefs, I got involved with the polyamory community in my area. I dated one woman in an open relationship for 8 months. It turned out we only had sex with each other. I went to various activities and got to meet a diverse set of people within the community. I went through a process of self inquiry and contemplation during this time that got extremely uncomfortable at times - including arguments and emotional breakdowns. I finally broke through and was able to see through their perspective and felt empathetic.  It’s a different sexual orientation and I  experienced it in my mind-body. I totally get a polyamorous sexual orientation from direct experience. It was nothing like anything I could have imagined.  I can honestly say my capacity to love has expanded greatly. Yet I also discovered my social conditioning for monogamy runs deep into me. It would have taken a lot of reconditioning for me to stay within the community. I just didn’t want to invest that kind of time and energy into that area of my life, so I left the community two months ago. I’m still integrating the lessons. It was really profound for me. 

Imo, to describe polyamory as sleeping around is on the same level as describing monogamy as cheating and affairs.

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