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[numbersinarow]

2 hours ago, gambler said:

Ironic coming from someone who thinks Palestinians aren’t entitled to their land. 

You aren't capable of engaging with my arguments. Do you use reddit/quora?

What you are quoting is me saying Jews are an oppressed minority which I demonstrated as perfectly as possible when talking to raze, and he admitted it.

Palestinians aren't, in fact, entitled to taking an oppressed minority's homeland because muh double standards say settler colonialism is morally wrong when not done by the US.

[gambler]

33 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

You aren't capable of engaging with my arguments. Do you use reddit/quora?

What you are quoting is me saying Jews are an oppressed minority which I demonstrated as perfectly as possible when talking to raze, and he admitted it.

Palestinians aren't, in fact, entitled to taking an oppressed minority's homeland because muh double standards say settler colonialism is morally wrong when not done by the US.

Reddit and Quora? Where is that coming from? Do you use Reddit and Quora? 
 

Also the quote bolded wasn’t about Jews being oppressed or not oppressed. 
 

In that quote you said we need to support Israelis taking back their land. I assume taking back their land means the West Bank, also known as occupied Palestine, no? 
 

As for the double standard whatever you’re on, I have no idea what you’re saying.

Edited July 28 by gambler

[gambler]

Also Jews are not victims nor oppressed. This is maximum cringe. 
 

if you meant to say historically oppressed say that instead rather than manipulating language. 

Edited July 28 by gambler

[numbersinarow]

1 hour ago, gambler said:

Reddit and Quora? Where is that coming from? Do you use Reddit and Quora? 

In that quote you said we need to support Israelis taking back their land. I assume taking back their land means the West Bank, also known as occupied Palestine, no? 

Reddit and parts of quora are sort of the best examples of people being unable to think logically or question the status quo.

That isn't what you said/meant at all, so I am totally confused now. There is no way to interpret what you said except "You think oppressed minorities should take back their band? Then palestinians should." which I responded to.

1 hour ago, gambler said:

Also Jews are not victims nor oppressed. This is maximum cringe. 
 

if you meant to say historically oppressed say that instead rather than manipulating language. 

The history is literally directly relevant to them taking Israel.

And they are oppressed currently because of the mainstream's and UN's double standards against them.

These double standards, which say they can't respond to terrorists while being 10x more moral than most other countries, are based on their country and their race. Even if they aren't based on race, they are based on country. Making them an oppressed minority right now. Trying to use sophistry to get around this is cringey.

+ I will never truly believe that you can't understand what I said about double standards. Just look around you, the whole mainstream stage blue narrative is anti-israel. This isn't even a topic, this is the most obvious given of all.

[gambler]

@numbersinarow

Nice to see you engage in oppression Olympics. You can have that. 

The fact that you have yet to discuss my point that you don’t think Palestinians are entitled to have their own land, and completely ignored what was bolded which was you saying we need to support Israelis taking back their own land (only thing left to take over is occupied Palestinian territories) and the irony that you can’t see your bias in that others are also entitled to their own land (under international law, occupied Palestinian territory is Palestine, which is West Bank and Gaza) and instead went on all these random distractions demonstrates you aren’t someone worth talking to. 

Edited July 28 by gambler

[numbersinarow]

9 minutes ago, gambler said:

@numbersinarow

Nice to see you engage in oppression Olympics. You can have that. 

The fact that you have yet to discuss my point that you don’t think Palestinians are entitled to have their own land, and completely ignored what was bolded which was you saying we need to support Israelis taking back their own land and instead went on all these random distractions demonstrates you aren’t someone worth talking to. 

There is no oppression olympics. You are quoting a conversation in which that's a valid point due to discussing who stage green would side with.

It's nonsensical to say "You didn't respond to me talking about Israel further taking land." when you skipped straight to that yourself without addressing the issue of the land already taken by Israel.

I literally said they aren't entitled to Israel's homeland, so I did discuss it. There is no objective morality to discuss and Israel is winning so make an argument for why Israel is immoral, and if you want to justify the double standards, then your argument needs to prove Israel is sufficiently immoral to justify those as rightful.

[gambler]

I don’t have to discuss immorality. Israel is not entitled to Palestinian Territories (West Bank and Gaza) by way of international law. That is the homeland of Palestinians that they are entitled to. You can’t see your own bias. @numbersinarow

Edited July 28 by gambler

[numbersinarow]

1 minute ago, gambler said:

by way of international law.

Law is subjective and not enforced. That isn't objective morality.

1 minute ago, gambler said:

You can’t see your own bias. @numbersinarow

You are in favor of laws that have been proven, thousands of times, to be self-serving and subjective as well as not applied evenly. But you are calling me the biased one.

But at least it claims to be objective. Then why aren't you talking about this law making it so that the settler colony known as america has to be disbanded?

[gambler]

Saying America needs to be disbanded is as lazy as saying a future Israel where Palestinians accept a one state solution needs to be disbanded. No at that point both parties have ended the conflict. There is no retroactive disbanding. This is lazy. I regret wasting my time here. 

[numbersinarow]

1 minute ago, gambler said:

Saying America needs to be disbanded is as lazy as saying a future Israel where Palestinians accept a one state solution needs to be disbanded. No at that point both parties have ended the conflict. There is no retroactive disbanding. This is lazy. I regret wasting my time here. 

You replied twice after saying that and will reply twice more.

You have done nothing with this except completely concede that you have no moral argument.

[gambler]

2 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

You replied twice after saying that and will reply twice more.

You have done nothing with this except completely concede that you have no moral argument.

I don’t need a moral argument.

Also the whole point of the creation of Israel was on the basis of partitioning land between two peoples. The same law responsible for creating Israel is responsible for a future Palestinian state. But if you don’t want to respect laws because they’re subjective, then forget about the rule of law. Just pick and choose when it’s convenient for you. 

Edited July 28 by gambler

[Raze]

On 7/28/2024 at 9:55 AM, numbersinarow said:

You replied twice after saying that and will reply twice more.

You have done nothing with this except completely concede that you have no moral argument.

I asked some questions to you in the Israel thread, please answer them 

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[numbersinarow]

https://x.com/Gus63933654/status/1682833230905372672

 

https://x.com/revenant_MMXX/status/1814481119037084076

 

https://x.com/SaintGreenPact/status/1803890772661436650/photo/1

 

 

https://looksmax.org/threads/one-day-i-will-get-my-revenge-against-women.1098312/

Edited August 2 by numbersinarow

[numbersinarow]

https://x.com/RokoMijic/status/1820820062611116198

[Dabidoe]

On 7/1/2018 at 3:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

 

This still hits every time

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[Jannes]

On 2.8.2024 at 11:17 AM, numbersinarow said:

 

Oh god. Sexless deep mind rage. 

And men take the bullshit structure which suits their ego as more real then what is there in the moment. Men are full of bullshit on the other side of the coin. Men and women bullshit check each other in that way. 

Reality is chaos which is what women are more connected to and they seek structure from men. But if the structure men come up with isnt suited to reality then it's simply rejected. Like when a nice guy doesnt get laid thats because his concepts dont match reality. He probably isnt nice he is just using this strategy to get into a women's pants and women are connected to reality enough to sense that. 

Men think that women are so shallow when in reality they just cant comprehend the level of bullshit of their own worldview and they think it's so sophisticated. 

Edited August 10 by Jannes

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