Cannabis addiction ? how to stop it ?

[Strikr]

hey there, I'll be very short. (  ) excuse my french minded english. ( with my lack of skill, as a learned it only by copying pattern, never listen at school )

This topic will be egoic  ( thanks for reading )

Fan of music since child, I find my life purpose while listening on weed music at a friend home. ( my all 3 best friends are currently into electronic music making )

 

 only wanted to be a electronic musician since 3 years ( soon 4 ) ( I worked like a slave those last years, on me and my multi projects ) I was a bit in PTSD ( from using LSD and contemplating that reality was not a thing ( this is what I ve seen in the void of my mind ) that nothing matter .. I didn't find any real god, I was deluded that I will understand something, but only met my intuition overpowered even more than usual ( could see imagery pop in my mind while drawing ) 

" adhd " ( for real, I do not even want to believe I m this kind of shit, cause I hate 98% of internet who pretend to be this shit ) they are sad to me to read. They all sound sorry to tell that, but kind of stupid. ( not their wrong, they have been very mindfucked to believe they are "sick" )

old kid addicted to video games since my 6 years ( pokemon ) to 20/21 years ( droped it when I did weed ) ( league of legend ) ( was used to be "introvert" and akwardly very social ) making real weirdo jokes ( kind of rick & morty before it exist ) I could makes jokes about china eating africans to save the entire world. I love shatter reality and perspective since a child ( wasn't aware of doing a thing like that ) was just funny and natural to me to be a leo.

I m INTP ( but mixed ENTP ) ( I did the test 4 times on my life and had 3 times INTP / 1 time ENTP ) 

 ( those are models, not real fact, but they sound very accurate to me, against all others ( that I read )

I do not believe in IQ as something related at pure intelligence, it is a bit of something maybe.. I have between 135 & 150 ( not in term of intelligence, in term of IQ of course )

I never used any drug until 20 ( only video games addiction, not because I was ugly or hated at school ( I hated school because it was borring to death )

I was mostly seen as a beautiful guy/nice, so no one bothered me because I had a nice face ( was on the border to be hated like a nerd though, but was mostly talking to everyone and trying to be openminded to every idea, besides the day or I shoot out that football was for fucking chimp ( exactly haha ) before leo was in my reality )

I was a bit weirdo, crazy, and in my "mind" , because everything ultimately..borring to death. ( and I was good at lonely sport one of the best for my heretic body )

 

I m a hard alone worker ( learn, music, art, etc.. ) very curious; watch various "scientific/biologic/psychologic" content. ( but only since 4 years, since my life goal is being a god tier at music ) ( I do music, video making, recording, music engineering, basic web language understanding ) my hands are a bit everywhere except on girls.

  used alcohol a lot the first 2 years I discovered ( but never did alone my entire life ) ( at 20 )

because it was fun and "legal". then at my end 20y, some of my friend who likes music and movies makes me try weed.

I buy a package the week after I try it ( it was not in a "night" context, only an afternoon, by listening music while high, it was like WOAAAAAAAAAAAAA )

Never stop using it more than 3 days for the last 3/4 years. ( probably put all my back monney in it, because it made me work for the first time of my life )

first thing : like music in 4k when you are used to 480 and you already loved it... ho man I fell in love, music and weed, it's infinity at hand, it's bliss. everyday it's bliss.

I know this is stupid to be addicted to something like this, but who isn't addicted to something in life ? most people are addicted to having sex or masturbate. ( I do not have those addiction at all, even porn isn't a problem at all, for instance, it has been 4 days without any kind of thing, it doesn't even miss me )

but WEED MAN

I started making electronic music like 6 month after i started ( and very religiously ). ( I learned english full while being high, I was mostly the worst piece of shit of my school for my entire school grades ) I even tell that I dedicate my life to the god of music in a very serious manner haha, so I worked so hard, my mind and ear was bleeding, it was even stupid of my part. 

I m still very healthy though, only crippling anxiety as a life style. weed remove all anxiety from me, absolutely all.

I try the drug ritalin, but it was mostly shit fake meth in pack, makes me work and idiots completely crazy robot, makes me learn something about mind. ( it was my intent, I never really believed this shit would help me, it was to cope with the price of weed ( I wanted to have something equivalent and not pay for it )

what a shame.. ( cause in my country drug, are 100% free when prescribed )

 I wanted to know what society was about to give me to makes me a good worker. holy shit, should have remain ignorant, but still, makes me grow a lot in the end ( if not makes me loose a cell of brain of both ) but brain doesn't exist

 but like leo said, all my induction was fucked to death. ( idea that pop by link of emotional pattern resolution, something like ) you're so tweaked, that your mind stop have insight, it just "do". without thinking really about the "how". ( it's the extreme of who I m )

ok now : I m almost 25, never worked in a real job ( only with dad for 3 month ) will never do it again. ( my dad can be real harsh and seriously close minded, I helped a bit with this but still )

 ( only worked on my project since I started.. weed . ), ( but my country gives you 500€/month at 25 years. if you do not have a work ( yes for doing nothing ) it's social security )

why I start to want to rule the world when I take a puff ? ( I mean this is how I feel ) most people are not resonating the same on weed as me. 

 

I worked with my dad in physical job, wanted to kill me almost every day, put violence on me ( I do not live with him, only with my mother )

 

 ( I m less heavy than a average girl 54kg and my 171 cm ) can't do physical shit, cause I had suicidal contemplation while doing this, turn me into a fucking nihilist, telling people that their life will end being a fucking slavery jokes ( this kind of thinking )

this is when I m out of weed, I always be a cynical, and a sceptical blabla.

When I started weed, all my bad, all my shit was turning ON !

ok end of story, could write on my context for long, but I think you grasb the problem. I m fucking addicted to death, I can now do weed/learning/music for all day while being high ( in fact I can't work without being high, it's completely chaos ) I do not have motivation, I m easily distracted by anything ( in my mind , not reality ) I mean if reality is borring my mind start to create story on things or self reflect endlessly ( my natural states ). 

I see pattern in everything, relate to every idea, I can't "work" properly, it's when I smoke, I m "happy" stop being a piece of shit talker ( stop being cynical : try to help everyone make it in everything )

I learned electronic music ( more than 8000 hours of work  ( only on music ) and others 3000 of hours : studying, reading, personnal work, reading book about business, art, etc.. ) I m still not at the lvl of selling anything. 

but when I don't have weed, I m lazy, procrastinating, playing EVEN video games, that I put out of my life when I started weed. ( completely stop my old addiction ) started to work and read a lot on weed. I think I would never learn patience without weed. and still it's annoying. when my mind creates all this thought only to entertain me/nerves me. I mean I wasn't aware as a kid of trolling people, only to excite me, I was doing this without even hate on people, conventional talk wasn't exciting enough. All my new real friends are Raves/Dj/drug addict ( mostly weed ).

now I have 3 month to live without weed, because of monney, only this..

my mind start to creates pattern to get weed, it's very serious, I don't know how to control me, I could just contemplate suicide or tired, my lazyness, darkside thinking, anxiety, apathy. ok then when this is not happening, I m just wanting to procrastinate and never work on my project or on anything. Ok I can still love music, but man, I can't do music. it's crippling after 15 min of making music, I'll start feeling bad for a random though poping in.

I never had real motivation before weed, I m still virgin at almost 25 ( not really making me feel great or bad, but maybe it's a thing, I don't know ) ,

even if I did LSD ( alone with self contemplation ), mushroom, mdma ( but fuck that shit, in the end, it's a happy void ), and a lot of others shits.

Weed is my fuel and I m a car, for real, I m just living on the parking when I m out of weed :'(

Now I m out of monney, should find a work/create a business to pay more weed ( like I did ) or should I really stop, and how to STOP and still makes music and hang a bit with my friend when I start to be crazy because of living the introvertness ?

I would kill for a real solution, and not a joking solution, my life is so shitty without weed, and only monney stop me from buying. Should I create a side business on the internet ?

now my account is 8€ currently, I still have 10€ of weed, and I m reflecting if I should suck dick or keep my dignity ( I m kind of joking ) 

no economy, no drive licence ( cost 2000€ to not get it ), but full of knowledge ! ..

Please guys, don't tell me to accept Jesus

 I already accepted him in me, he talks to me in my sleep, tell me to call my weed dealer immediatly and trap him to stole his weed

 

Edited August 19, 2018 by Strikr
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[Strikr]

I do not have chemical addiction problem beside weed   ( drink only water, and eat mostly fruit and good food )

really I drop all my addiction for this one, this is my addiction of value.

Using tobacco in my joint though, could be this that makes me "crave" ( like 40% tobacco ) I never smoke tobacco for "real" ) but probably it's like 2/3 cigaret per day in the end, wish I could make them "pure".

probably weed isn't the real thing that makes me crave, but I underestimate something

 

I miss the good section of the forum  ( sorry )  ( I read "health" and didn't see the one on addiction ) 

should I remove the topic  ? or a moderator move it in the right section ?

Edited August 20, 2018 by Strikr

[Strikr]

thanks joseph, will try to nourrish a lot my "why I should quit" and integrate, try your idea with real work

maybe lot of good can comes from stoping my dependance from it, I know it can be as simple as a decision take in 5 minutes, but in my current context I can't see it right now. All my environnement is depending upon me fonctionnal and wanting to get out of my room. ( that is hard when I don't smoke .. ) I never be a social guy before. ( and Djing and meeting people randomly can sometimes be anxiety taking ) anyway, my mind will trick me to see only the good with it. can't be neutral I suppose, I do not have a good perspective on this maybe.. 

I m the overdrug weed friend everyone watch smoking joint on joint at "party/group meeting". so the problem is I shouldn't frequent my self ( if you know what I mean haha )

I don't really no, I m probably deluded now by all the good it gives me, but there is some bad, like having to take a substance to be "efficient", I just need to "reificient" my self maybe in other way, maybe be more efficient than over doing, this is maybe weird but maybe it can work better for me.

I know it's stupid thinking that I have more "value" or something on it, I m probably a bit delusional now because of all the validated good it gives to my life. Probably it stole a lot of good that I didn't see aswell, I didn't regret any penny put in it though.

Edited August 19, 2018 by Strikr

[Jack River]

See the endless game trying to maintain psychological security dudes. I smoked a lot before and after surfing. Since I have been watching fear and not reacting to it I have been able to totally stop smoking. It’s been 2weeks now. Actually even other habits seem to have lost there strength. 

Edited August 19, 2018 by Jack River

[Strikr]

humm I don't know if it's about fear, I m just anxious, because I've always been as I remember , born weirdo ( my thinking always as been seen as weirdo ), I mean I couldn't put word on this. I had anxiety panick like shit when I was a child like at 13 ( wasn't aware it was this, I didn't have word for my feeling ) like wanting to vomit almost each morning when waiting for the bus to school or trying to get real disease to not having to go to school ( and playing more video games, even if I was sick )

 ( only because school takes me at anxiety land, I almost supported everyone around me, never had true friend before art school ( I was friend with everyone though at school ( preventing trouble ) but never "very close" to the point talking love and green shit haha ), omg I loved college for the people though so much more ( cause I could fucking "choose" with who I want to hang out, I started having this "social life dream" after all my nerd life )

 ( in my country it's free for college, I should mention ) so I quit ( endless trap, no "real knowledge" to my viewpoint )

Was completely fogged into online game before," it's my drug", I always told that to people before even thinking trying drug a day. ( I was in fact anti smoking everything, anti drug ) until maybe 18. Probably I should understand why I m seeking addictive behavior since my whole life ? ok stop talking

Edited August 19, 2018 by Strikr

[Arcangelo]

Hi. I have been smoking weed for 23 years. I get triggered when someone says weed is not addictive. I will tell you what is not addictive LSD.

I did a lot of tolerance breaks on 2017. By the end of 2017 my financial situ improved so i went back to smoking like an addict would.

You can change your relationship with weed. Tell yourself you are responsible. Tell yourself that when you smoke again you will be super high. take T-breaks they are totally worth it: more money, get higher, more productivity.

Right now i am on a 96 hour T-break today is day 3, i already feel smarter, i move faster, i think better and faster.

Exercise everyday so you don't have to deal with insomnia. You can have the best of both worlds.

What i kinda don't like is that i become more social, more like a ''normal'' person: I waste my time on facebook, and post stupid comments on forums like this.

There are pros and cons to smoking and not smoking.

[ZZZZ]

I think part of the addiction you're experiencing is due to the tobacco that you're smoking (like you said), although I do acknowledge that it is possible to get addicted to weed alone. I also acknowledge that mixing tobacco with weed can also be very stimulating and enjoyable.  However, cutting out the tobacco could help you tremendously here. Maybe play with the ratio you're using, or add less and less each time and commit to not buying or using more once you run out.

It sounds like you might be getting something out of smoking weed in terms of creativity, or even socially, if you are partaking with your friends while making music etc... This can make quitting altogether that much more difficult.

Perhaps one solution would be to set aside a time each day to smoke, with a specific task you want to accomplish. Instead of just haphazardly smoking. This way you can limit how much you are consuming, keep your tolerance down, and don't let the day run away from you. Go okay... I am going to work on this song tonight, and allow yourself a single joint after 5 PM each day or something along those lines. That way you have something to look forward to, you can still tap into those creative benefits, and you can give yourself a solid guideline to build some discipline off of.

However, it sounds like you won't be able to afford it at all and that you should potentially be prioritizing other things with your finances, in which case, cutting it out entirely would probably be of most benefit for you. I think your two solutions in that scenario are 1) Replacing the weed smoking with new and better habits/hobbies, and 2) Changing your outlook on life, particularly when you are sober.

I personally battle with cutting weed out of my life, and I do it off and on with some success... I find that once you stop entirely and don't have any around, it becomes MUCH easier to live without it (almost effortless). It seems like certain living situations I've been in or habits I've built have made it easier/harder for me to kick the habit. Maybe you need to start taking steps towards changing your environment or influences from others.

I take a course that talks about influencing behavioral changes, and if you don't want to make the change, you simply won't. If you are no longer able to smoke, perhaps you need to sit down and draw up an objective list of why it would benefit you to stop. Think about things like finances, lung health, legality, etc. 

Just based on your writing, it seems like you are attributing a lot of your issues to NOT having weed or being sober, when I think you will find they are completely subjective and unrelated if you really do some thinking on the subject. In fact, all of your "problems" are fabricated, but that's a topic for another time. 

Replacing the habit can be accomplished in many ways: Start drinking herbal tea when you would normally smoke a joint. There are some varieties like kava or even just caffeinated black tea that are very aromatic, warm, and pleasant. Find some new hobbies outside of music; it can be easy to get obsessive about something if it is all that you do, and a different perspective could actually help your creative process and distract you from the same habits you are probably stuck in right now. Start exercising (even lightly), it can clear your head and make you feel cleaner/happier. This is a very good natural solution for anxiety due to endorphin release, etc. There are many things to occupy yourself with if you just sit down, try not to get too frantic, and think.

Anyways, hope some of this helped.
 

Edited October 27, 2018 by ZZZZ

[Hellspeed]

A fast way is:

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