Psychedelics: Effective tool or toy?

[aclokay]

As far as realizing your true nature, eat 5 grams of mushrooms and you're there. You won't have any doubts. 

But once the psilocybin leaves your body, you drop off your cloud and land back to reality.

It feels like..,having enlightenment would be to clean your chakras so energy would flow, but psychedelics would just build temporary bridges for your energy to bypass the dirt..

In Yoga, there's great emphasis on fasting, and according to it the source of creation doesn't want any food in your stomach or your bowls. I guess this means you're supposed to cleanse  your past karma which is in your body, and not the food you eat. 

Does this mean when you're having glimpse of enlightenment through a substance, you're actually doing work for the substance rather than for your own consciousness? Does the mushroom use you to explore consciousness rather than vice verse?

Also, in Sadhguru's book he mentioned that buddha experienced all states of Samadhi, and realized that it's not that. So, perhaps psychedelic are nothing but a Samadhi shortcuts which will leave real trace, just a delusion. (Ignoring all healing, and entertaining stuff)

In Vipassana retreat, they tell you the words of Buddha when he was enlightened, about ending the cycle of rebirth and death and all of the habits that he was carrying. How can psychedelics enlighten you or benefit you if they mostly enforce the habit of getting glimpse of awakening? How can the cycle break when the source is cycle forming?

I guess all of this could be said about any tool. But I'm still curious about your opinions  

/contemplate

[SgtPepper]

I don't think psychedelics "mostly enforce the habit of getting glimpse of awakening". That's what you're doing with it. They could just as well show you how much time we waste doing mental masturbation and get us to meditate deeper on a regular basis. Awakening is already there, its whether you want to actually drop your ego to see it.

Psychedelics are God's gift to mankind to open our damn eyes. That's my opinion.

How do you know Buddha did not use psychedelics? Psychedelics come in a variety of plants and can be ingested in various ways. 

I'd worry less about this karma and this cycle stuff. You can set aside time to contemplate it, but if you're trying to awaken, it seems like a distraction to me. 

Just focus on your direct experience. Are psychedelics helping you get deeper? if so, continue to use them responsibly, if not drop them. 

[Nahm]

2 hours ago, aclokay said:

you drop off your cloud and land back to reality.

Ime, you got that backwards, and that’s enough falsity to keep you seeking for decades.

2 hours ago, aclokay said:

ending the cycle of rebirth and deat

That is not literal, because “reality” is illusory. That is a reference to the thinking that you are alive right now, and that you’ve die. That perspective is transcended, and thinking is gone, as far as monkey mind / over thinking. The cycle is worry, relief, worry, relief, worry, relief,worry, relief. What the root of the worry is realized, it disappears, just like anything else. 

Ime, pyschedelics are effective af. When applied in addition to practices / foundation, there’s infinitely effective.