Endangered jobs

[PhilGR]

Hi! I was reading an arcticle about endangered jobs in 2030 , and I was really socked about the fact that most of the jobs we know now will be done by robots or AI . Including my future job as an nutritionist/dietician . I really have big and diverse plans about that, and arcticles like this are really dissapointing me. Where should I aim?
Who should I trust?
Thank you !

[Leo-Tzu]

Don't worry society will adapt. Probably your kind will be the one to write the algorythms of the AI about nutritionism. Studies will still continue by multidimensional human minds and will always be changing and selfcorrecting. Factory jobs will disappear eventually especially in first world countries BUT if you think of it wtf are factory jobs? From a historic point of view it all begin with the industrial revolution and continued til mid 80s and 90s in america and europe and now they are gettin rid of them and replacing with robots. China and other expanding countries are using manpower, mostly children like in the us in 1910s . . . From a human point of view its a miserable kind of life which nobody should spectate in first person. It looks like it was always here but humans for the most time were farmers, hunters, gatherers and merchants. So to round up nobody will be missing factory jobs when they go out. The real problem is how the society will distribute capital to its people? Nobody has that answer yet i guess. But if there's a vision worth having i guess is greko-roman culture where people worked so little shitty jobs that they had time to wonder about the universe, philosophy, art, science, drama, astrology etc in vast scale. The hard labour was done by slaves, now remove slaves with robots and there you have it

[PhilGR]

@Leo-Tzu Thank you fpr your very nice answer , you got a point! Dont forget that in greko-roman societies there were huge population of minorities , only rich have the time to think about that I guess. But as we turn greener there wont so many minoroties in 1st world countries again.As you said society adapts.

[aurum]

@PhilGR

It's good to be aware of these kind of situations. Like I wouldn't suggest anyone invest long-term into becoming a truck driver at this point, not with self-driving vehicles right around the corner. But I wouldn't freak out about it. There will always be work to be done and the market will adjust accordingly.

[PhilGR]

@aurum Exactly, but I dont think some jobs are in the same danger as the others,imagine doctors physiotherapists and lawers for example were included in the list too.
I dont think that these jobs will radicaly go endangered but they might will change the way people work.

[TomDashingPornstar]

Automobiles ravaged horse-ranching, wagon wheel production, and saddle artistry.  Those had been around for centuries.

Other times, automation increased labor demand.  The cotton gin boomed the slave trade.

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by TomDashingPornstar

[now is forever]

23 hours ago, Leo-Tzu said:

China and other expanding countries are using manpower, mostly children like in the us in 1910s . . .

be carful about china, i didn’t experience anything like child workers in china. they have some really bad working conditions there and a hell of air pollution, but no child workers. 

[smd]

Let's be realistic here:  New technology just introduces a new set of problems.  They won't be able to technology their way out of everything.  It's not even remotely possible.  Let's say you followed the fear:

1.)  You avoided your interest to be a dietician/nutritionist due to foreseen job death.

2.)  So does everybody else!

3.)  The present catches up to the future & we find a shortage on dietician/nutritionists.   It turns out the AI isn't ready yet & hasn't taken over the market due to ... problems.

4.)  The people that became nutritionists are now highly paid & in high demand due to the shortage in professionals...becoming instant millionaires.

I don't even believe truck drivers are in danger.  If robots are sharing the road with people, it only takes a couple of horrendous accidents to get the crap sued out of those robot companies.  People in the 60s really believed in the Space program.  They seriously believed we would have moon bases, get to Mars & colonize the system.  Then Reality came a knockin' & said to thee, "We don't have a budget to afford your ass anymore.  Hit the breadline & find a new job."  And those people cried when the future they believed in was false.

Robot tech sounds like the same bill of goods as NASA's future space program in the 60s & 70s.  I wouldn't believe it until you actually see it happening.

[PhilGR]

@smd really optimistic opinion, however it is very grounded and thats good. Maybe all of this expectations for technology are distractive from actuall growth while Media hypes up all the thing.After watching  "Merchants of Doubt" I have a better understanding about how we are being manipulated from gov or the media and also companies.

[Aimblack]

On 8/8/2018 at 2:06 AM, Leo-Tzu said:

Don't worry society will adapt. Probably your kind will be the one to write the algorythms of the AI about nutritionism. (...)

Not how AI/ Machine Learning works. The entire point behind having an AI is that you don't actually have to code any algorithms.

[Leo-Tzu]

@Aimblack true but still will be monodimensional. There will always be place for humans to direct it. 

[now is forever]

@PhilGR just get really good in that job and find exeptions from the mainstream. if you are specialized back to the future, that means also finding out about niche nutrition, you will always have a job. i almost predict you, where you catched that up, they didn’t have a christal ball.

if they start to exchange lawyers and doctors into ai i would leave the country.

Edited August 9, 2018 by now is forever

[Aimblack]

@Leo-Tzu There is no way you can make that claim because 1. We don't really know in which direction research will go meaning cooperative AI or completely independent AI. 2. No offense but you just don't know enough about this topic to be able to say that... I mean ALWAYS is a awfully long time...that would mean that it is categorically impossible for AI to be more intelligent than humans are, and that is something you would have to prove somehow.

Edited August 10, 2018 by Aimblack

[RawJudah]

Don’t worry about it now. Who knows what will ACTUALLY happen? Society will adapt and there’ll still be plenty of work, I’m guessing mostly computer work.

[now is forever]

just setting that up as a topic to reflect on: utopia vs dystopia. 

what are the pro‘s and con‘s of ai vs humanity. 

it‘s more a matter of: will we allow some things to happen or will we resist?