What is MEMORY?

[David Turcot]

I don't know if you have ever had a blackout when drinking too much? I did too many times! 

It felt weird, it's like I never lived those moments. Or Did I?

What about those people remembering past lives they say?

Why some do while most people don't?

I think it is a very important thing to think about and understand more for oneself.

I also think this question is linked to another very important question:

What is DEATH?

Ok, a lot of contemplating to do on this!

[the_end_of_me]

I'm curious about memory too.  Not sure what to say about it though... not sure if it takes place inside the body or not. 

[robdl]

We can all agree that memory is a response of thought, a response of the past.

But what is the relationship to memory?

I have memories 

or 

“I” is memories

? 

Does an “I” separate itself from memory, or are memory and “I” seen as one and the same movement of ego mind/thought-self?

Edited August 5, 2018 by robdl

[robdl]

Is a memory, which is a thought, an image of the past, not a movement away from what-is, the now? Is a memory a form of resistance to the now? Meeting the now with the past? 

Is this not the very inherent nature of mind/memory/“I” (all one and the same) to meet the now with the past?

Edited August 5, 2018 by robdl

[Faceless]

What is MEMORY?..........THE PAST 

[Faceless]

2 minutes ago, robdl said:

Is a memory, which is a thought, an image of the past, not a movement away from what-is, the now? Is a memory a form of resistance to the now? Meeting the now with the past?

Memory is the veil that blankets the now, indeed?

[David Turcot]

8 minutes ago, Faceless said:

What is MEMORY?..........THE PAST 

What is the past then?

And dont say that it's Memory lol

Edited August 5, 2018 by David Turcot

[Faceless]

3 minutes ago, David Turcot said:

What is the past then?

Hehe ?

 

A conditioned experience accumulated and stored as memory. 

An experience not carried all the way out, and ended. 

Ultimately the past is thought. Recollection and registration. 

[robdl]

The past =

experience/knowledge/memory =

thought/mind =

self/“I”.  

 

All of these are interchangeable; one and the same movement.

 

 

[Faceless]

2 minutes ago, robdl said:

The past =

experience/knowledge/memory =

thought/mind =

self/“I”.  

 

All of these are interchangeable; one and the same movement.

 

 

Could we even say a movement of fear? 

Or is that jumping the gun??

Edited August 5, 2018 by Faceless

[robdl]

Just now, Faceless said:

Could we even say a movement of fear? 

As the movement of the past is a movement/escape from what-is/the now.  This is also the quality of fear: escape; movement away from what-is/the now.  

The “past” and “fear” are different expressions of the same thing, which is thought seeking security in its own movement by resisting the Now.

[Faceless]

4 minutes ago, robdl said:

As the movement of the past is a movement/escape from what-is/the now.  This is also the quality of fear: escape; movement away from what-is/the now.  

The “past” and “fear” are different expressions of the same thing, which is thought seeking security in its own movement by resisting the Now.

Indeed...

Time seeking security in time, one and the same movement of, and as, the self seeking security in itself.

Self perpetuating, self sustaining, self feeding loop⭕️?

Edited August 5, 2018 by Faceless

[David Turcot]

7 minutes ago, Faceless said:

An experience not carried all the way out, and ended. 

That's interesting.

Like for the dreams, if you remember one dream, it's because there is still something not fully "integrated" about it I could say.

Edited August 5, 2018 by David Turcot

[David Turcot]

I dont think "god" remembers a single thing.

But that's another story...

Edited August 5, 2018 by David Turcot

[Faceless]

29 minutes ago, David Turcot said:

I dont think "god" remembers a single thing.

But that's another story...

We could say it’s futile to discuss the immeasurable in accordance to that which is bound by measure, thought. 

But have you read the thread I wrote, “the veil that blankets being”? 

Might see a similarity. 

Edited August 5, 2018 by Faceless

[David Turcot]

5 minutes ago, Faceless said:

We could say it’s futile to discuss the immeasurable in accordance to that which is bound by measure, thought. 

But have you read the thread I wrote, “the veil that blankets being”? 

Might see a similarity. 

That's a nice poetic way to put it yep it's similar.

[RichardY]

The future. It perpetuates, it memes.

[Joseph Maynor]

The Paradigm of Memory or No Memory is a conceptual system.

[zoey101]

This discussion is really cool you guys 

I was actually watching a silly show, "BoJack Horseman", and they did a pretty HEAVY episode about Dementia, and it kind of made me think of memories in a pretty different way. 

The one with dementia was just a living box of memories, I guess you could say. She was no longer "herself" but a moving projection of the past, physically in the now, but now living in it.

So when I think of memories in regards to me, someone without dementia, I am now trying to think of it as a movie projection. You can refer back to it anytime. You can learn from it, or just enjoy "the show", but the movie itself has no bearing on you and the now. Just like any other movie out there. You will have emotional reactions and thoughts about it, but the movie itself WON'T have any affect on your life unless YOU make it that way. 

If any of that makes sense. 

[David Turcot]

Even tough memories seemed to have happened in the "past",

a memory is still a thought happening in the "now" as Eckart Tolle says.