What stage in Spiral dynamics are isolated enlightened people?

[blazed]

What stage in Spiral dynamics are isolated enlightened people?

Sages/mystics/gurus that decided to stay unknown and personal? The ones you never hear about or see, the hermit ones.

They dont seem like stage turquoise because there is no group/social aspect, they're not helping others.

And I can't see them being below those stages.

They don't seem like stage yellow either.

 

Edited July 27, 2018 by blazed

[Joseph Maynor]

I think a lot of the 'gurus' that people think are Turquoise are actually at Green.  Adyashanti and Mooji are at Turquoise in my opinion.  The others, I'm not so sure about.  

Edited July 27, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[blazed]

6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I think a lot of the 'gurus' that people think are Turquoise are actually at Green.  Adyashanti and Mooji are at Turquoise in my opinion.  The others, I'm not so sure about.  

Yeah but what about the non-group enlightened people?

Think ramana maharshi but without you know... getting popular or a following.

Edited July 27, 2018 by blazed

[Nahm]

An enlightened person could be doing activities indicative of any color, but they wouldn’t be in any stage. 

[WelcometoReality]

@blazed They are at stage turquoise but they haven't fully embodied the enlightenment. Some might be stuck in the absolute perspective, that nothing needs to be changed, everything is perfect just as it is. Others might be holding on to the realization (the blissful experiences). 

There can be many reasons really.

[ChimpBrain]

I think Leo specifically said "this is where the model starts to break down" in reference to such individuals. 

[Malelekakis]

@blazed maybe stage coral 

[Nahm]

@Feel Good A person who isn’t enlightened couldn't actually recognize if someone else is enlightened. They’d be projecting concepts. 

[WelcometoReality]

@Feel Good I don't think they have no. I don't think spiral dynamics is meant as a map for enlightenment. 

There are however other maps of the different stages of enlightenment such as the 4 stages in buddhism or the oxherder paintings.