What Does Jordan Peterson Miss About Peter Pan? I Want you to Ponder This

[Joseph Maynor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan

Edited July 25, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[cirkussmile]

There’s much to say about this and I don’t agree that you have to sacrifice your child. It can even be the opposite. 

Anyhow... He seems so bitter. But maybe his job is not about inspire love and understanding. Or even non duality. 

What is your response, Joseph?

[Brittany]

I love the archetype of Peter Pan.

From certain angles, it really helps explain the human psyche.

[Joseph Maynor]

It’s almost like Peter Pan is Jordan Peterson’s shadow.  That nerdy boy who’s always trying to pretend he’s a real adult and a real man and a real success.  Same thing you gotta watch out for with people who complain about gays a lot — they could be trying to distance their own psyche from an uncomfortable place.  I’m not trying to bag on Jordan Peterson, I actually like one of his videos.  I’ll post it below:

 

Edited July 27, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Joseph Maynor]

On 7/25/2018 at 7:44 PM, cirkussmile said:

There’s much to say about this and I don’t agree that you have to sacrifice your child. It can even be the opposite. 

Anyhow... He seems so bitter. But maybe his job is not about inspire love and understanding. Or even non duality. 

What is your response, Joseph?

I think he’s trying to define himself as an adult and I wonder why he feels he needs to do that.  It’s like a guy who’s always trying to define themselves as a straight man.  It’s like, nobody really asked!  But, this guy has to let everybody know he’s a manly sonofabitch.  Maybe he has a big truck with a big German Shepard dog and buys a 12 guage shotgun and smokes big cigars.  This guy is trying so hard to appear manly!  I’m a manly sonofabitch!  Really?  But why do you need to try so hard though?  Is there something threatening about femininity to you?  And then why?  Dudes that are comfortable with their masculinity are not threatened by femininity.  I wonder why Jordan Peterson is threatened by Peter Pan.  There's something in him that's distancing himself from Peter Pan.  But why?  Michael Jackson loved Peter Pan, right?  Michael Jackson was pretty well off dude, he might have been weird, but he was well off.  He was a self-sustaining adult.  So, I don't get why Peter Pan needs to be transcended to be an adult.  I find you wanna preserve your inner Peter Pan.  That's one of the secrets of life.  Why do you wanna transcend your inner Peter Pan so you can have this husk of fitting into some persona of being an 'adult'.   And even in the below video (which I like) I get sense that Jordan Peterson is trying to advance that persona he's created for himself as a defense to thinking of himself as being inadequate.  But like I said, the primal man in me likes this video too!  But I can see where he goes overboard.  Here's the video I'm talking about:

 

Edited July 27, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Arman]

18 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I think he’s trying to define himself as an adult and I wonder why he feels he needs to do that.  It’s like a guy who’s always trying to define themselves as a straight man.  It’s like, nobody really asked.  But, this guy has to let everybody know he’s a manly sonofabitch.  Maybe he has a truck with a big dog and buys a 12 guage shotgun and smokes big cigars.  This guy is trying so hard to appear manly. 

I'm gonna indulge in some armchair psychology, but I think I've heard him talk about how he was a scrawny kid when he was young. I don't think he grew up with a lot of self-esteem, and before his fame blew up, I think he was fairly unhappy and unhealthy? If I'm wrong then readers can correct me but I'm going on what I've seen and heard. 

Imagine the thrill that would emerge if you were attacked for some polarizing ideas, retaliated and suddenly found yourself at the whim of tremendous support? It's one thing to have support, but it's another to have support against an enemy - that's especially juicy. You're being thrust into a position of authority and I bet it would be immensely gratifying and addictive compared to a previous unfulfilling life. If you were in his position, what would evolve as your life purpose? I think he probably see's a dual thing of not allowing what he perceives as a destructive counter-culture to prevail, and also to be a role-model for the young generation that follow him. I think it would seem almost imperative to him to be 'a man' and not let himself be trodden on. An entire structural axiom of his reality is built on the position of not being pushed around. 

I always kind of see him as the 'leap' from apathy into some kind of primal frenetic energy. He strikes me as generally being unsettled and tense but I think that's understandable given his position and history. I think of him as a representative of the stepping stone from lower repressed energies into some degree of power. It isn't yet truly refined and it's kind of buzzy and defensive, but that level which he has been elevated to (and maybe hundreds of thousands with him as a result of his work?) now allows for greater self actualization. Is that not admirable? That's my two cents.

Edited July 27, 2018 by Arman

[Joseph Maynor]

 

[Joseph Maynor]

I like this video

 

Edited July 27, 2018 by Joseph Maynor