Self and Other (assistance needed!)

[Kamo]

To what extent does this mean that other people are also you? And can they know your thoughts? This is a serious question i have? I had an experience where i thought another person could see my mental image for a moment and it freaked me out because it was very negative and i ended up having a panic attack (convulsions) . Later on through out the week i became skeptical of others being able to know my "inner hearing"? I began noticing the reactions of others and events seemed to merge very well with my thoughts which also freaked me out, it seemed like my thoughts began to manifest in my reality this became unreal to me and a little unsettling but very dream like? I tend to try and resist my thoughts now around people sometimes out of fear of them being shared for some reason? I know this has something to do with my ego but i cant understand what exactly? Also i am not schizophrenic i am aware these things sound similar to the symptoms they experience, but this was a very rare occurrence. This all occurred around the time i began to open my mind to spirituality.  Moving past all that i have a question on what seems like being able to feel the energy of people near me? I cant tell if its my own anxiety in reaction to them or my thoughts or the emotions of others? When it comes to the emotions  tho, i discussed with another person how i thought they felt and i am always correct on identifying how they feel and they tend to wonder how i can know that? I understand i have high emotional intelligence and can read people via mirror neurons but as im learning to dismiss the materialist paradigm I'm struggling to understand these things fully?  Can anyone relate or give me some insight into any of this? I plan to contemplate these things but id like some input from some conscious people who understand this path.  

[Highest]

Reading other toughts is possible, so is other physic abilities. To what extent does it mean that another is you? For me, to every extent. You are truly Me, and vice versa. There is always just One. What really differentiates us? Our mind? Well the mind is One as well. Even the differences between us makes us One, it is from the same source.

[Prabhaker]

1 hour ago, Kamo said:

I had an experience where i thought another person could see my mental image for a moment and it freaked me out because it was very negative and i ended up having a panic attack (convulsions) .

People with schizophrenia may believe other people are reading their minds. Consult a specialist.

[Kamo]

Thanks @Highest , i just wanted a second opinion on that. I agree. @Prabhaker  i have spoken with a psychiatrist she says i do not have schizofrenia, but i do have generalized anxiety disorder. Any other insight to share?

[tsuki]

20 hours ago, Kamo said:

Later on through out the week i became skeptical of others being able to know my "inner hearing"? I began noticing the reactions of others and events seemed to merge very well with my thoughts which also freaked me out, it seemed like my thoughts began to manifest in my reality this became unreal to me and a little unsettling but very dream like?

@Kamo The relationship between your inner hearing and the other is that the inner voice always has a recipient of the talk.
Just like there is the verbal talk you do out loud, there is a written talk that I do right now and there is an inner talk that you do, unless you engage in the other two. There are always two parties that are being engaged in the talk. The I, and the other. 

The other is always something concrete, just like you are something concrete that I communicate with. My understanding of you is informed by the post in which you described your revelations. My interaction with you is informed by the way in which I understood what you wrote, so in essence - all interactions via talk are interactions of the self with the self. That is because the self is what both talks and interprets what is being said in response.

Let's say that you imaginatively argue with your mother via inner hearing. You say mean things to her and she is upset and grounds you for a week (in your imagination). This mother you just argued with your inner voice is the same mother that you talk to when you speak out loud. That is because the inner interaction with her informs the image of her you have, and will influence further interactions with her via verbal voice. You will interpret her verbal words in relation to your past interactions with her (even the mental ones).

That is why you are right - everyone, always, knows what you think, so thoughts influencing reality is a thing.

[DrewNows]

Okay so you are good at interpreting and picking up on the emotional vibrations of others. That's great! But does that mean you know what other people are thinking all the time? No way! Most people are totally caught up in their own heads maybe concerned about a task/themselves/ or worrying. Other than sharing the ultimate truth of consciousness is it not possible your mind has the ability to see yourself in others? To see its own reflection based off thoughts and feelings.

Maybe we attract the beliefs we may hold about ourselves in relation to others through our energy vibrations. 

[Kamo]

@tsuki thank you i greatly appreciate your advice. That is so obvious now that you point that out to me. only thing i dont get is on your last part. "Everyone always knows what you think" But i think i get it it. So its not that my inner voice will be known but another person as im "hearing it" directly in the moment, together.. But in essence the self is the only thing able to interact with that communication?

 

Edited July 19, 2018 by Kamo

[Kamo]

@DrewNows Thank you, your right that makes sense. is there anything else you can tell me that you know about vibrations?

[tsuki]

59 minutes ago, Kamo said:

i dont get is on your last part. "Everyone always knows what you think"

@Kamo Everyone always knows what you think because all there is, is you.
Any thing you hear is your interpretation. Any response you give is a response to what you understood.
The self plays the role of I and the other by communicating through the voice.
This communication is the stream of understanding that makes reality tangible.

When you are being dishonest to another person by saying one thing and thinking another, the other will not verbally address your thoughts. What he will say in response, however, will be interpreted in relation to what has been thought secretly. You will not hear him saying what you thought, but you will look for confirmation of what is held in secret.

At the very least, you will be conscious of the possibility of the other person being dishonest (just like you are). You may start to play a game of trying out-think them and predict what they say non-verbally (and read his thoughts in the process). All of that is predicated on your own dishonesty towards that person.

There is no secret thoughts. The self sees everything.

Edited July 19, 2018 by tsuki

[DrewNows]

@Kamo vibrations are emotional energy, what you feel. People give off all sorts of vibes. In my experience some radiate positive energy and open everyone around them while negative energy tends to create the opposite effect. I feel it's more important to always be looking inward, or at least have some attention to your body even while interacting with others. This will help with anxiety and keep you from being consumed by others' egos. 

We often get caught up in our own stories, taking life so serious. The mind gets filled with thoughts which lead to emotions being triggered. Having an awareness of these thoughts (what causes these vibrations) and the belief systems behind them can help disassociate with the mind made self. This in turn ends suffering and helps create peace and love. 

[DrewNows]

@Kamo Hey also if you haven't heard of bioenergetics. Check it out! all about grounding and releasing energy and opening yourself up

[Kamo]

@DrewNows Awesome thanks man, your input allowed me to understand way better now. I am going to check out bioenergetics right now. are there any books you recommend or can they be found on youtube?