why is so difficult to get enlighten without drugs

[Highest]

The mind, sense of self, sense of reality, conditioning. Identification with the ego and body mind, identification with thought content.

[Recursoinominado]

Maybe because of distractions of the modern world, you can literally spend a lifetime distracting yourself with useless things. Some monk in a monastery has no alternative besides looking inside and investigate the Self.  The most valuable asset in today's world is our attention, all companies fight for it all the time, no wonder most people have some kind of ADD. Drugs make you confront all parts of yourself, make you look inside much easier (as you have no choice) since they are shoving it on your face. Also, they alter reality radically so you start to question it and its all downhill from there. 

[Bobby]

@Lucas Lousada difficult is a relative term. if you're seriously committed it isn't "difficult." it takes effort ofc, but it's a labor of love. 

[Guest Quanty]

On 12.07.2018 at 6:21 PM, Joseph Maynor said:

LSD and Mushrooms can raise your awareness much more than it is by default when you're sober.  It's good to have that happen to you.  It's an increased mindfulness and a spiritual cleansing at the same time.

Not true. Is just a step in becoming soberer for the dormant. After one awakens, drugs usually have a lower vibration than breath+kundalini at full throttle. 

[Arkandeus]

14 hours ago, Quanty said:

Not true. Is just a step in becoming soberer for the dormant. After one awakens, drugs usually have a lower vibration than breath+kundalini at full throttle. 

I fully agree

[CreamCat]

Meditation is a weak form of psychedelics. That's why it takes far longer to kill your ego with meditation than with psychedelics.

[pluto]

20 minutes ago, CreamCat said:

Meditation is a weak form of psychedelics. That's why it takes far longer to kill your ego with meditation than with psychedelics.

Psychedelics however show you that without the meditation or application of the realizations, this state shall fade because you didn't come here to be god, you already are god. You came here to experience god through not knowing you are god. This way you can learn and grow because you don't always have direct access to your infinite intelligence so its a new and exciting way to experience self through "otherness.

One thing i must mention though, belief systems far outweigh the power and effectiveness of both meditation and psychedelics when it comes to creating and shaping your reality and state of existence.

Edited July 14, 2018 by pluto

[CreamCat]

55 minutes ago, pluto said:

One thing i must mention though, belief systems far outweigh the power and effectiveness of both meditation and psychedelics when it comes to creating and shaping your reality and state of existence.

@pluto What's wrong with my belief system when I am easily distracted? Would meditation and psychedelics not help a lot with addictions and distractions?

Edited July 14, 2018 by CreamCat

[pluto]

@Etagnwo Yes, it has a lot to do with energy they did not understand. When one takes a psychedelic there is a huge release/surge of energy that if not given adequate time for grounding, crystallization/integration and balancing of this energy, it can turn into a deep fryer on an "energetic level".

 

 

Sure they would but again, they are simply "permission slips/tools" we can choose to use that only help you become aware of what is always there in awareness behind your focus. If truly believe something to your core, by universal law it must occur especially as it becomes a "knowing".

All i am saying is what you believe will work best for you, will work best for you no matter the method or tool. Belief systems = Reality.

@CreamCat

[Moreira]

i think the natural state is the delusional separation, thats how nature made us in order to survive.