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This is the kind of issue that requires a vMEME Yellow level of thinking.

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AMAZING video on military strategy coming from a vMEME Yellow perspective 😉

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We went from this to "There is a conflict and Israel has to admit they are wrong."

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1 hour ago, numbersinarow said:

We went from this to "There is a conflict and Israel has to admit they are wrong."

This position is taken by Leo considering the current genocidal circumstances in Gaza. Systemic thinking is fluid and practical enough to make black-white distinctions if it requires it. You are not going to extinguish a fire by analyzing all the actors & circumstances which caused the fire. First you need a water bucket.


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On 10/15/2024 at 6:59 PM, Loving Radiance said:

This position is taken by Leo considering the current genocidal circumstances in Gaza.

 

I can't get behind this because why would someone change a universal rule because "Well now this side has gotten worse, so now I'm taking sides and breaking a universal rule."

And what precisely is the circumstance which means that we need an immediate bucket, and not analysis? Trump is the best example of this mentality. "Hamas wants peace and Israel wants to keep going." Just a complete detachment from the context of the fact that Hamas is explicitly genocidal and that Gazans salute Hitler. A complete detachment from the fact that Hamas wants to manipulate the public image because that's the #1 point of terrorism. And this ultimately amounts to saying that a certain race of people or a certain country shouldn't be able to defend itself, or at the very least deserves to be more shamed for minor moral failings during it's defense, than people who throw LGBTQ members off buildings or salute hitler.

All 3 of these attitudes are below SD tier 2. They'd all qualify for examples of how stage blue thinks.

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@numbersinarow It's not about taking sides and clinging to it, it's about what is more important for the current situation. A clear opinion is practical in dire times. The reality is that you cannot do analysis and build up civilization from understanding the systemic issues at hand when we are still in war with each other.

Universal rules in the relative domain are imagined. The rules we accept are based on survival, so we imagine them to be universal.


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The game "Alpha Centauri."

It's like civilization but in space.

All the factions are very clearly modelled after SD stages, except for the free information UN one, but that one could be argued to be influenced by purple.

And then there are psychic research options based on concepts from real life philosophers.

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