Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

[Carl-Richard]

@DocWatts Spiral Dynamics tends to get wonky when you apply it to art, especially with yellow. You can take aspects of it (like the message) and place it there, but even then it's not something you should expect to come across.

[DocWatts]

55 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@DocWatts Spiral Dynamics tends to get wonky when you apply it to art, especially with yellow. You can take aspects of it (like the message) and place it there, but even then it's not something you should expect to come across.

Interesting point. You also would probably get in to questions of Content vs. Structure as well; how fully can you  separate the content of a work from the constraints of its medium? Could also be that systems thinking doesn't lend itself to artistic expression as easily because of its inherent complexities. Food for thought.

Edited September 29, 2020 by DocWatts

[UnbornTao]

On 9/10/2020 at 6:09 PM, Matt23 said:

Gregory Bateson

 

 

 

He wrote a book called "An Ecology of Mind"... seems to be pretty popular.  Peter Ralston also recommend reading it in one of his book list recommendations.

 

@Matt23 Hi, where did you find that book list recommendation? Could you share it? I’ve never seen Peter recommending books. Thanks  

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, DocWatts said:

Interesting point. You also would probably get in to questions of Content vs. Structure as well; how fully can you  separate the content of a work from the constraints of its medium? Could also be that systems thinking doesn't lend itself to artistic expression as easily because of its inherent complexities. Food for thought.

One of the constraints of the movie format in relation to yellow in particular is that the meta-perspectival nature would probably not translate well into a "message" that you would want to put in a movie, or atleast I can't imagine it catching on in our current culture.

[Lyubov]

9 hours ago, DocWatts said:

About as subtle as an anvil falling from a skyscraper, but an effective analogy nonetheless.

I was thinking about this recently... Are  stage Yellow movies / tv shows (fictional, not documentaries) even a thing at this point of time? Seems really difficult to place my finger on what a stage Yellow piece of entertainment would look like. The handful of examples I can think of might be better placed in high Green with some aspects of Yellow.

I finished the movie and would not call it stage yellow. It’s more green. This movie has an interesting first half but the second half flops and the ending is meh.

[Bernardo Carleial]

Right in the beginning of the conversation, Roger Penrose explains to Joe Rogan about Godel's incompleteness theorem. very top notch. For those folks who are in to physics.

[Bernardo Carleial]

To be fair... I'm not 100% sure about this video... but the impression I got from the guest is that he talks from a 2nd tier understanding with regard to that topic.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Bernardo Carleial

[Darren_Everitt]

8 hours ago, Bernardo Carleial said:

To be fair... I'm not 100% sure about this video... but the impression I got from the guest is that he talks from a 2nd tier understanding with regard to that topic.

I'd say Tristan Harris is Yellow: pattern recognition, vision logic analysis, individualistic ethicist. May be knocking on the door of Turquoise with the community thing in co-founding Center for Humane Technology. 

[Darren_Everitt]

On 7/8/2018 at 4:05 PM, LisaA said:

I think this scene from the movie "Donnie Darko" is a good example for stage yellow. What do you think?

A friend of mine, who used to do a lot of consulting using SD (including the official test) once told me that this film is a good example of Yellow.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Darren_Everitt

[andyjohnsonman]

 

[spaghetti11]

 

[Carl-Richard]

On 2.10.2020 at 0:12 PM, Darren_Everitt said:

A friend of mine, who used to do a lot of consulting using SD (including the official test) once told me that this film is a good example of Yellow.

What official test?

[tuckerwphotography]

On 10/2/2020 at 4:09 AM, Darren_Everitt said:

I'd say Tristan Harris is Yellow: pattern recognition, vision logic analysis, individualistic ethicist. May be knocking on the door of Turquoise with the community thing in co-founding Center for Humane Technology. 

Green/Yellow. Nowhere near Turquoise. 

[tuckerwphotography]

Dustin DiPerna. Student of Ken Wilbur. I've read Streams of Wisdom which is a great overview of integral spirituality. 

https://www.dustindiperna.com

Edited October 4, 2020 by tuckerwphotography

[Darren_Everitt]

On 7/11/2018 at 2:32 AM, Leo Gura said:

That's right.

Although it's complicated. You have to understand that mystics and enlightened people tend to reside outside Spiral the entirely.

Nonduality cannot be mapped. Nonduality is not a stage you reach. Nonduality is Absolute.

Never forget that Spiral Dynamics is just a model, and it is not designed to model mysticism, altered states of consciousness, or nonduality.

If you want a model of levels of nonduality, Ramaji's LOC system is better suited to that. Although, still, it's just a model and will not address every facet.

Enlightenment or non-duality is ever present and can be accessed regardless of one's level of psychological maturity because the absolute realm transcends and includes the relative realms. How one experiences and interprets such satori type insights is, seemingly, determined by one's stage of evolution.

[Darren_Everitt]

On 10/3/2020 at 3:43 PM, Carl-Richard said:

What official test?

SD test. I did it about 20 years ago, it's licensed by Don Beck as I recall.

[DocWatts]

47 minutes ago, Darren_Everitt said:

SD test. I did it about 20 years ago, it's licensed by Don Beck as I recall.

Just something interesting that I recall Don Beck mentioning during an Interview is that he would probably map himself as Blue in SD.

[TrustTheProcess]

concise stage yellow understanding of race in america

[Marianitozz]

sophia is stage yellow 

[tuckerwphotography]

17 hours ago, louhad said:

concise stage yellow understanding of race in america

Lex is obviously a very intelligent and articulate thinker. That said, I’m not sure I fully understand his point. Is he saying that in order to move up in society Blacks need to create strong and prosperous Black communities so that then they can be seen of value by dominant white society? If so, this makes sense to me. But I’m confused by his critique of “money culture” which he associates with white culture and laments hip hop for selling out to “money culture,” but isn’t that contradicting his point about Blacks needing to pull themselves up so that they can compete with the very money culture he disparages? Perhaps he sees this as a necessary evil? Maybe I just missed his larger point. Thanks for providing any clarity. @louhad