Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

[itachi uchiha]

@Rilles her book is hard to read.did u completely read it

[Rilles]

43 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

@Rilles her book is hard to read.did u completely read it

I read about half of Thinking In Systems: A Primer, but I learned systems thinking through an online course instead because I thought it was easier. Her book was a bit too abstract and meta and didnt have enough examples and implementations for me personally. 

[itachi uchiha]

@Rilles @Rilles can u recommend a beginner friendly course

[Rilles]

Listen and take notes, otherwise its gonna go over your head. 

@itachi uchiha

[itachi uchiha]

@Rilles @Rilles @Rilles thanks man.

I was like damn i will purchase leos book and i cant wait to have access to book on system thinking and after i purchased and bought the book i was like dude what the fish.this is too technical and requires years of contemplation to understand

[Rilles]

6 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

@Rilles @Rilles @Rilles thanks man.

I was like damn i will purchase leos book and i cant wait to have access to book on system thinking and after i purchased and bought the book i was like dude what the fish.this is too technical and requires years of contemplation to understand

I havent really found a book on Systems that I'm willing to buy yet, I am looking into some stuff by Fritjof Capra and Peter Senge but I would rather read papers and watch lectures for now. 

[Carl-Richard]

56 minutes ago, Rilles said:

I havent really found a book on Systems that I'm willing to buy yet, I am looking into some stuff by Fritjof Capra and Peter Senge but I would rather read papers and watch lectures for now. 

There is a communication theory course I'm taking that is explictly based on systems thinking and holism, people like Gregory Bateson and Fritjof Capra. The books are in Norwegian though ?

[Rilles]

42 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

There is a communication theory course I'm taking that is explictly based on systems thinking and holism, people like Gregory Bateson and Fritjof Capra. The books are in Norwegian though ?

Ah, shoot, Im Swedish, so close... 

[itachi uchiha]

@Rilles did u read tao of systems thinking

[Rilles]

15 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

@Rilles did u read tao of systems thinking

Nope, have you? Is it worth reading?

[itachi uchiha]

@Rilles my reading list has lot of pending.

[ValiantSalvatore]

@Rilles Audiobook is very good would recommend. The intro to systems thinking audiobook is not so good. Did not read the physical book yet. 

[Rilles]

2 hours ago, itachi uchiha said:

@Rilles my reading list has lot of pending.

Mine too.

2 hours ago, ValiantSalvatore said:

@Rilles Audiobook is very good would recommend. The intro to systems thinking audiobook is not so good. Did not read the physical book yet. 

99% of my reading is audiobooks.

 

 

 

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[ValiantSalvatore]

@Rilles They sort of adress these issues in the audiobook mentoning for instance how poverty programms to get the homless of the street do not seem to work, as well as other programms and how counter-intuitive approaches can work, for instance smth. simple such as less is more. They also talk about the second law of thermodynamics and entropy and some equation that is similar to the definition of how stream entry is achieved as well as how important virtue is and sort of the issues with green from my perspective and laissez-faire leadership it's very fun to listen to it.

Nice post with the wicked problems gives me another synchronistic event today lol. 

The dao of systems thinking is freaking awesome def. recommend listening to it. Explains a lot of politics also lol. 

Edited September 23, 2021 by ValiantSalvatore

[Rilles]

4 minutes ago, ValiantSalvatore said:

@Rilles They sort of adress these issues in the audiobook mentoning for instance how poverty programms to get the homless of the street do not seem to work, as well as other programms and how counter-intuitive approaches can work, for instance smth. simple such as less is more. They also talk about the second law of thermodynamics and entropy and some equation that is similar to the definition of how stream entry is achieved as well as how important virtue is and sort of the issues with green from my perspective and laissez-faire leadership it's very fun to listen to it.

Nice post with the wicked problems gives me another synchronistic event today lol. 

The dao of systems thinking is freaking awesome def. recommend listening to it. Explains a lot of politics also lol. 

That sounds excellent! I will definitely look into that book!  

[itachi uchiha]

@ValiantSalvatore is daonof system too abstract

Will i be able to read and understand or do i need years of contemplation to understand

[ValiantSalvatore]

@itachi uchiha It's understandable definitely worth contemplating for a year reading it I presume will make this process faster. In addition with meditation I presume it produces the most merit. A single book won't help also some of this stuff is nothing new. It's very good when you dabbled a bit into eastern mystecism, David Deida, Yin and Yang, as well as spiral dynamics. 

I listend to it so far 2 - 4 times it makes more sense now, it's a game changer in a sense, integration of the principles taught in the book is smth. entirely else, so I am still sort of in that process also, my headphones are gone  , so can't currently listen to it till I have new ones. 

Edited September 24, 2021 by ValiantSalvatore

[Carl-Richard]

Legendary systems thinker Fritjof Capra

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Systems-View-Life-Unifying-Vision/dp/1316616436

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

This video is Great!

This is the kind of thinking that goes inside the mind of a vMEME Yellow person prior to their action taking. 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Bernardo Carleial

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