Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

[Matt23]

Gregory Bateson

 

 

 

He wrote a book called "An Ecology of Mind"... seems to be pretty popular.  Peter Ralston also recommend reading it in one of his book list recommendations.

 

[DocWatts]

4 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Jared Diamond is a really good example as he's all about going to the root as well as systemic issues. He has the systems thinking mentality that the race IQ people utterly lack. And the way that he comes to his systemic conclusions is by studying the systems very well, he sees how history (he's a historian) and the modern day, all of our institutions, are intertwined in a massive web. Jared is a YELLOW historian.

Great points. In addition to this I think that his travels around the world, having spent much of his working life in places like Papua New Guinea forming relationships with indigenous people, have given him additional perspectives to think about the modern world and the problems it faces.

[Matt23]

1 hour ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Jared Diamond comes to mind.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond

 

I started the first part of Guns, Germs, and Steel... blew me away.  The interrelationships, complexity, systems thinking, and yet how everything works together smoothly, in an ecologically and systemically logical and intuitive fashion.  Changed the way I think (at least for a few minutes )

[DocWatts]

50 minutes ago, Matt23 said:

I started the first part of Guns, Germs, and Steel... blew me away.  The interrelationships, complexity, systems thinking, and yet how everything works together smoothly, in an ecologically and systemically logical and intuitive fashion.  Changed the way I think (at least for a few minutes )

Also the fact that he's writing these books for the general public, and that he's able to present a nuanced look at the complexities of the systems he's analysing in a way that's understandable for a non specialist is a mark of just how good of a communicator he is.

[Matt1576]

https://theconversation.com/au 

Stage yellow analysis of news & politics. At least in Australia, I haven't read the other countries editions. Written by academics and not ideologues, and non-profit. Allows for different perspectives and nuanced thoughts. 

[Thewritersunion]

@DocWatts I should see if my library has these books. 

[Thewritersunion]

Sankey Diagram

[DocWatts]

6 hours ago, Matt1576 said:

https://theconversation.com/au 

Stage yellow analysis of news & politics. At least in Australia, I haven't read the other countries editions. Written by academics and not ideologues, and non-profit. Allows for different perspectives and nuanced thoughts. 

If anyone is aware of any additional high quality news sources that offer a Yellow perspective on contemporary issues/politics, I'd love to check it out.

Edited September 15, 2020 by DocWatts

[Thewritersunion]

@DocWatts Ken Wilber has a website 

[tuckerwphotography]

Great overview of Integral Spirituality. 

https://www.kosmosjournal.org/article/integral-spirituality-2/

[tuckerwphotography]

"The Wisdom Pattern" is Brilliant example of stage Yellow thinking by Richard Rohr. He masterfully takes on the Green, Orange and Blue memes - especially the pitfalls of postmodernism - while also presenting a beautiful vision of Yellow religion, society and culture. The way he so poignantly speaks to Green, Orange and Blue in the very same paragraph is truly amazing. 

https://store.cac.org/products/the-wisdom-pattern-order-disorder-reorder

[Raze]

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Raze

[Apofis_im]

This is insane! 

 

 

 

[Loving Radiance]

3 hours ago, Apofis_im said:

This is insane! 

 

 

 

Incredible. Truly. I am in awe.

[Lyubov]

6 hours ago, Apofis_im said:

This is insane! 

 

 

 

This looks really good !

[Lyubov]

Watching this movie now and it is... weird... good analogy of capitalism 

[DocWatts]

14 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Watching this movie now and it is... weird... good analogy of capitalism 

About as subtle as an anvil falling from a skyscraper, but an effective analogy nonetheless.

I was thinking about this recently... Are  stage Yellow movies / tv shows (fictional, not documentaries) even a thing at this point of time? Seems really difficult to place my finger on what a stage Yellow piece of entertainment would look like. The handful of examples I can think of might be better placed in high Green with some aspects of Yellow.

[Carl-Richard]

@DocWatts Spiral Dynamics tends to get wonky when you apply it to art, especially with yellow. You can take aspects of it (like the message) and place it there, but even then it's not something you should expect to come across.

[DocWatts]

55 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@DocWatts Spiral Dynamics tends to get wonky when you apply it to art, especially with yellow. You can take aspects of it (like the message) and place it there, but even then it's not something you should expect to come across.

Interesting point. You also would probably get in to questions of Content vs. Structure as well; how fully can you  separate the content of a work from the constraints of its medium? Could also be that systems thinking doesn't lend itself to artistic expression as easily because of its inherent complexities. Food for thought.

Edited September 29, 2020 by DocWatts

[UnbornTao]

On 9/10/2020 at 6:09 PM, Matt23 said:

Gregory Bateson

 

 

 

He wrote a book called "An Ecology of Mind"... seems to be pretty popular.  Peter Ralston also recommend reading it in one of his book list recommendations.

 

@Matt23 Hi, where did you find that book list recommendation? Could you share it? I’ve never seen Peter recommending books. Thanks