What happens if green is not properly integrated?

[DeannaDevil]

At this point in my life, I can say I no longer embrace the world view of orange. I feel now just as much as I think, and my intuition has become part of my rationality rather than something that opposes it. However, though my thoughts have shifted away from orange values, I still feel some resistance to green. I still find my focus to be more individualistic rather than global, though on a smaller scale I can see signs of green. The concept of self-improvement and moving forward remains a lesson from orange that I live by, but not in a 'survival of the fittest' sense, more in the pursuit of a life that is fulfilling to me. I am concerned that I will not be able to fully integrate green if I cannot be the idealist/activist archetype. I simply do not feel things to that extreme. These are some thoughts I have about green that may be barriers: I do not appreciate green's attachment to ideology; it feels unbalanced, potentially stifling independent thought. It also seems showy, as if the concern is more to choose a side and make an enemy out of the other side, rather than to embody the cause and naturally influence by setting an example. I also feel green would impede my creativity and advancement with the focus being so much on other people, at least in the form of worldly issues. I am concerned that I've demonized this stage, but don't know how to see myself as a green person.

Edited July 5, 2018 by DeannaDevil

[Emerald]

I'm mostly kidding, but not really. Green has been integrating itself into society for the past 100 years. And if we had made no progress relative to Green, we'd be in an awful situation like this already. 

Edited July 5, 2018 by Emerald

[DeannaDevil]

Point taken. How about on an individual level, specifically?

For context, I was watching Leo's video on Stage Green, and he mentioned how if "green people" didn't properly integrate orange and move too quickly into green, they can have resistance to working a regular job and become deadbeats, for example.

Edited July 5, 2018 by DeannaDevil

[ValiantSalvatore]

@DeannaDevil I can elaborate a bit on that.

For instance at orange most people regard themselves as individuals and many people including myself would rather regard themselves as individuals regardless of their background. Instead of being associated to a group and be downtrodden by sterotypes. Etc. a lot of orange/green type humour is about culture, ethnicity and their peculiarities imo. 

What I perceive you most likely fear is that when you become green that all you do is care for people and entrench yourself in ideologies that activists preach in order to build a better society, more wellbeing or free the animals, protest against oppressive goverments or movements etc and in order to be green you have to be like those people.

8 hours ago, DeannaDevil said:

as if the concern is more to choose a side and make an enemy out of the other side, rather than to embody the cause and naturally influence by setting an example.

That sounds like a healthy green, sounds more like you would embody your ideal of how things should be in the world and your life, instead of falling prey to group think, ideological people. I would recommend that if you know people who are ideological , yet good hearted and green. That you spend some time with them and see all of their faulty beliefs and how much pride and ego / narcism they develop through feeling better since their values or worldview is superior to others and that they do not acknowledge that, but let you subtely know that they are better. At the same time you can see how compassionate people are who create these ideologies and that they really care about other people, animals, plants etc and their reasoning behind why their ideologies / ideals are so important to them and you can contemplate that viewpoint and be detachted from the ideals themselves and see what you want to install or not

8 hours ago, DeannaDevil said:

For context, I was watching Leo's video on Stage Green, and he mentioned how if "green people" didn't properly integrate orange and move too quickly into green, they can have resistance to working a regular job and become deadbeats, for example.

This is basically where I am at to a degree since I resent competition it triggers me sometimes badly that I just get very angry to not live up to my ideals / standards that I just rather work together with people in friendly communality or revert back to a more aggresive form of myself or work alone completely ( that is what I do most of the time) . I still get shit done and I am working on my productivity. Yet, this is mostly "orange" work and needs orange tactics or some larger system which integrates this slowly somehow imo. 

To give a better example the best guy in our major is quite green and he is by far the most productive and efficient person since he is social and takes care of his needs and also receives a lot of help from green people with whom he built a connection with and people at green love ! to help. Or they are extremely fine with it. Orange tends to weigh pros and cons, green does to , but is more relative about it. As long as there is time for themselves they can sacrifice the time that they have and spend it on a friend who needs his/her help as long as there is a good bond between the two of you. Also, the bond does not need to depend on the person being in the closest of circles like a blue friendship would be like, it is more of a apprecation of the connection of the two of you made and the persona that you wear/have.

Another example is one of my best friends he is the "artist" type, went to the U.S  (Las Vegas) to pursue his career in stand-up comedy and acting he also plays in a band, yet even if he is smart his best friend has a masters in economics (his best friends gf has a master in electrical engineering and they are both green left people) to give some credit. He never finished his education and had trouble finding a regular job, deadbeat sounds a bit rough lol. But, you could call him that to a degree he is very idealistic some might say megalomaniac, a bit like Russell Brand but not that successful lol. So, even though he is green he is not successful but extremely creative without taking any substances at all, besides alcohol and even that rarely.  He has a regular job and always seems to find something which potentially makes him fulfill his dreams/ambitions on a monetary basis.

8 hours ago, DeannaDevil said:

. I also feel green would impede my creativity and advancement with the focus being so much on other people, at least in the form of worldly issues. I am concerned that I've demonized this stage, but don't know how to see myself as a green person.

Green feels like the most creative stage for me. You can let loose and show vulnerability in many aspects or facets of your life like speaking or holding a presentation, writing, interaction between people becomes extremely playful and status and recognizing the other persons intelligence or any sort of "political/socital game" like that is secondary. It feels more emotionally expressive and creative you can sing, dance and laugh with people and forget your persona or not feel threatend around green people that they will hurt your ego or that you neccesary have to please them since you are out for fun and you have to provide them with knowledge, interesting facts, news about your accomplishments. You will also feel if you are a more sensitive type depressed by the events that are occuring all over the world, terrorism, donald trump, refugess, enviromental destruciton or catastrophes, politics in general and see it more clearly for what it is and why progress is important, your capabillities in self-expression will rise tremendously in that way creativity increases enormously, also the ability to self-actualize (Abraham Maslows hierachy of needs) becomes stronger many green people I know like to draw, play an instrument or have played or learn languages and travel to expierence different cultures and not to increase their skills or earn some money, gain knowledge, so the drive to do things for itself increases and the satisfaction that comes from doing it. Sometimes green can be extremely nasty and depict you as the shittiest human being you can be since at green I feel like you can truly see a persons personality even if they hide it behind a mask, a lot of it oozes out. It is amazing that you can just be with a person and share your lives and enjoy a good time / plan activities that does not focus soley on the activity or your agenda of having fun. The agenda moves more to convincing the other person to finally (f-ing) realize that both of you have are going to have a great time, since there is an activity which you both enjoy and the bond of your friendship / relationships is in the foreground and not the agenda of pleasuring the other person or to be pleasured be the other person.
 

8 hours ago, DeannaDevil said:

I am concerned that I've demonized this stage, but don't know how to see myself as a green person.

It does not sound like you are demonizing these stage, but are considering the repercussions of how it will play out for you on a individual level when you move towards this stage. I hope this moves things into perspective. One thing green can do when it is ideological is to team up with red people I do not know why and it can be scary. Stay away from them or learn and observe lol. 

Edited July 5, 2018 by ValiantSalvatore

[Guest Quanty]

@DeannaDevil "What happens if green is not properly integrated?"

One loses touch with reality and goes into imagination, fixed personality, rigid, mind, etc.

[Brittany]

The green stage is filled with chill people.

Many green stage people are not angry activists. And many green stage people are relaxed and zen.

If you meet you a "centered" green stage person, you will enjoy being in their presence.

Sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference between a "centered" green and a turquoise person.

Edited July 9, 2018 by Brittany

[ValiantSalvatore]