Is Nutmeg reasonable DMT subtitute?

[Sartanion]

Hello everybody. For some time now, I want to try psychidelics, problem is that in my country, you can't get things like DMT or 5 Meo DMT, don't wanna do LSD, yet. Also, I don't really wanna go around web searching "where to buy drugs", even with vpn/vps.

Was searching around web and read that nutmeg is quite potent, and with effect similar to DMT and such. Was wondering if anyone has experience with it. Read that you can experience bad trios on nutmeg if you not prepared enough, but good trips are quite helpfull.

 

Thanks!

[Sartanion]

I've done more resesarch, seems like 60% of ppl were really sick afterwards - flu like, but i read also good trip reports, little bit on a verge. If i decide to do so after thorough resesarch, ill write trip report here.

[Danelius]

I find AL-LADS and 1P-LSD is better than LSD.

Never had a bad trip. I've experienced both apex spectrums of good and bad and enjoyed  them both. All depends on your personality and frame of mind whether you can handle it.

[Girzo]

Hell no, nutmeg is not a substitute for DMT, not in the slightest.

If you are looking for a DMT substitute then there is DPT, or MET, or MiPT, just to name a few. Do research, maybe some of them are legal in your country.

If you have access to LSD then that would be your best bet.

Btw, there are reddits like this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs/wiki/bible/buyer that may help you solve your problems.

[astrokeen]

@Girzo , the dark net markets are onerous to navigate to say the least. For newbies trying to gain access to DMT etc, they are a complete nightmare.

[Guest Quanty]

Good Black Coffee, knowing how to ground yourself because at first will go directly into the head. 

After mastering grounding, coffee can open the gate to DMT higher than LSD or Mushrooms. 

Edited July 4, 2018 by Quanty

[astrokeen]

@Quanty , please elaborate. Are you saying that the coffee should be drunk before taking DMT? Or on its own. If the latter, how much coffee because drinking coffee alone does nothing?

[pluto]

Nutmeg can be psychedelic yes, many herbs can but nutmeg is one of the stronger ones you just have to really educate yourself beforehand so you can efficiently create and apply the process. It will not be close to DMT but it can be closer to other psychedelics like mescaline-mdma-2cb like.

Here are some links i saved on nutmeg and similar natural ways to create a psychedelic experience. Ultimately all psychedelic chemicals come from oils from herbs. If you master the alchemy you will never spend another dime

I once created a psychedelic-like experience with mega-doses of ceremonial cacao hot chocolate paired with powerful herbs like nutmeg and a few others in combination created a very good experience.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=14275

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/i-am-a-regular-user-of-nutmeg.152954/

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47066

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/oilahuasca-the-new-psychedelic-frontier.156755/

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25430

Edited July 5, 2018 by pluto

[Arman]

No it is NOT a substitute for DMT

Technically it could be considered a substitute for your common psychedelics.

Kinda in the same way that listening to your friend farting through a toilet-roll is a substitute for going to a grand-opera. 

Nutmeg fucking sucks bro. I don't think it's good on your kidneys or liver either. One of the two, I forget. At low doses it's lame as hell, at higher doses it's likely going to induce nausea and toxicity becomes a concern. A light dose of LSD is going to be way more enjoyable, palpable and useful. 

Either get comfortable with the darknet, learn to make connections or just be patient. DMT might not be a strong part of the culture where you live but as long as you aren't in an african village (according to your profile you're in the EU) then i's just a matter of connecting with the right people. 

[Guest Quanty]

Nutmeg in marvelous for the body in the right quantity. 

Using coffee to ground yourself opens a faster meditative way to own DMT, that already the body makes. 

To achieve a psychedelic state with coffee, one has to prepare in advance, the mindset, the meditation practice, achieving high levels of oxygen in the body, etc. Using deep slow breaths, at first may look counter-intuitive to the shamanic breathing. 

[Matt8800]

@Sartanion Nutmeg is not in the ballpark of DMT. Might want to do some looking around on the dark web. There are places that are pretty reliable.

 

[Sartanion]

Thanks everybody.

Update: I ended up buying it, but i made tea with only about 2 grams of it.

I wasn't sick and it was really tasty, felt great afterwards - same way i feel after 40' meditation, but mightve been only placebo. No trip, gonna use it for tea just to use it all up, since it adds kind of zing to it.