Zen Monastery and Blue Stage

[Bobby]

This topic was fuzzy to me until just recently. Like, until 40 mins ago.

basically, traditional zen didn’t/doesn’t teach non-duality the way it’s taught now. Western zen temples generally do, though.

in traditional zen, non-duality was an absolutist position which, until you got enlightened, you really were supposed to just believe.

people who got enlightened in old traditions like zen got very, very lucky by the sheer fact that their absolutist position ended up lining up with the Truth.

modern non-duality is run by yellow and turquoise clearly thought out rational proofs of nonduality. Not how it used to be.