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Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

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How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

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There is no failure, only feedback

Do what works

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You ready?! Let's go!
Yeah, for those of you that wanna know what we're all about
It's like this y'all (c'mon)

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

He doesn't need his name up in lights
He just wants to be heard whether it's the beat or the mic
He feels so unlike everybody else, alone
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him
But fuck 'em, he knows the code, it's not about the salary
It's about reality and making some noise
Making a story, making sure his clique stays up
That means when he puts it down, Tak's pickin' it up

Who the hell is he anyway, he never really talks much
Never concerned with status but still leavin' them star struck
Humbled through opportunities given despite the fact
That many misjudge him because he makes a livin' from writing raps
Put it together himself, now the picture connects
Never asking for someone's help, or to get some respect
He's only focused on what he wrote; his will is beyond reach
And now it all unfolds, the skill of an artist

This is twenty percent skill, eighty percent beer
Be a hundred percent clear 'cause Ryu is ill
Who would've thought that he'd be the one to set the west in flames
Then heard him wreckin' with The Crystal Method, Name Of The Game
Came back, dropped Megadef, took 'em to church
I like bleach, man, Ryu had the stupidest verse
This dude is the truth, now everybody be givin' him guest spots
His stock's through the roof; I heard he fuckin' with S-Dot

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

They call him Ryu he's sick, and he's spittin' fire and Mike
Got him out the dryer he's hot, found him in Fort Minor with Tak
What a fuckin' nihilist porcupine; he's a prick; he's a cock
The type women want to be with and rappers hope he get shot
Eight years in the makin' patiently waitin' to blow
Now the record with Shinoda's takin' over the globe
He's got a partner in crime; his shit is equally dope
You won't believe the kind of shit that comes out of this kid's throat

He's not your every day on the block
He knows how to work with what he's got
Makin' his way to the top
He often gets a comment on his name
People keep asking him was it given at birth
Or does it stand for an acronym?
No, he's livin' proof that he rockin' the booth
He'll get you buzzin' quicker than a shot of vodka with juice
Him and his crew are known around as one of the best
Dedicated to what they do and give a hundred percent

Forget Mike, nobody really knows how or why he works so hard
It seems like he's never got time
Because he writes every note and he writes every line
And I've seen him at work when that light goes on in his mind
It's like a design is written in his head every time
Before he even touches a key or speaks in a rhyme
And those motherfuckers he runs with, the kids that he signed
Ridiculous, without even trying, how do they do it?

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

Yeah
Fort Minor
M-Shinoda
Styles of Beyond
Ryu
Takbir
Machine Shop

Edited by lostingenosmaze

“We have two ears and one mouth so we can listen twice as much as we speak." -Epictetus

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Notice:

  • The atomic symbol
  • The tagline on the desk and backdrop

If it weren’t for those clues, it would have been more questionable. But given the entire context this feels very Orange to me.


 

 

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A very good example of vMEME Orange overrelyance  on logic, to the point of being naive...

Reality is far more chaotic than what this video is trying to present...

A lot of our challenges in life requires non-linear solutions, when feedback is not very clear or it's delayed (no "if-then" fallacies), or sometimes we might do everything right, we have the "clear logic", but the environment that we're in is very hostile for growing, or it doesn't provide the frame of reference necessary to overcome a problem, and so on and so forth...

Don't get me wrong! logic is a very helpful tool! The Problem with vMEME Orange is that they atomized too much their worldview, to the point of trying to make reality to accommodate their own individual perspective, giving lots of instant feedbacks, just because someone has the "right mindset" and is being proactive ... and that's not gonna fly in a complex world like ours...

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Who TF choose the music for this one? Abslute sociopath lol


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14 minutes ago, Artsu said:

Maths is Orange.

Prove me wrong.

You can teach a preschooler (Purple-Red) basic arithmetic, but more abstract forms of math (algebra, calculus) are more Orange.

Edited by Carl-Richard

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5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You can teach a preschooler (Purple-Red) basic arithmetic.

I'm not referring to arithmetic.

You're right, arithmetic is lower down.

 

I will say, higher level maths is also a lot about Yellow, but this is more for researchers. A university professor doesn't need to be Yellow. They can be Green. Pure maths professors are typically Yellow and above, but statistics professors are often Green.

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47 minutes ago, Artsu said:

This forum is Orange.

Yaaa... I think many people misunderstand themselves and others here as Yellow or above but are really more "orangey-flavor".  Or more "Expert" in terms of the Ego-Development model I think.    Just cuz we talk about systems thinking and spirituality and even have mystical experiences and do psychedelics doesn't put us at Tier-2 etc..  The popular SD and Wilberean theories popular here even emphasize people have different lines of development that can be at different stages.  


"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down"   --   Marry Poppins

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29 minutes ago, Matt23 said:

Yaaa... I think many people misunderstand themselves and others here as Yellow or above but are really more "orangey-flavor".  Or more "Expert" in terms of the Ego-Development model I think.    Just cuz we talk about systems thinking and spirituality and even have mystical experiences and do psychedelics doesn't put us at Tier-2 etc..  The popular SD and Wilberean theories popular here even emphasize people have different lines of development that can be at different stages.  

The people here are mostly Green who talk about Orange things.

In truth, that's most adults. Green Frontier with Orange Centre.

To have a Turquoise Centre is incredibly rare.

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4 hours ago, Artsu said:

Maths is Orange.

Prove me wrong.

What are math's motivations?  Does it seek recognition/success?

 

4 hours ago, Artsu said:

This forum is Orange.

Originally was, now it's Orange-Green, with small pockets of Yellow and Turquoise.

 

2 hours ago, Artsu said:

The people here are mostly Green who talk about Orange things.

Are you contradicting yourself?

 

2 hours ago, Artsu said:

In truth, that's most adults. Green Frontier with Orange Centre.

Misleading to start using such terms, imo.  There's just centre and cultural influences.

UK and Japan lead the world in recycling.  But that doesn't mean they're Green countries.  It's just culture.

 

2 hours ago, Artsu said:

To have a Turquoise Centre is incredibly rare.

Yep. It's a sad truth.

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19 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

What are math's motivations?  Does it seek recognition/success?

 

Originally was, now it's Orange-Green, with small pockets of Yellow and Turquoise.

 

Are you contradicting yourself?

 

Misleading to start using such terms, imo.  There's just centre and cultural influences.

UK and Japan lead the world in recycling.  But that doesn't mean they're Green countries.  It's just culture.

 

Yep. It's a sad truth.

 

Maths is upper Orange, which is Modelling.

Read my post in the Thematic Hierarchy thread about Centre and Frontier. I didn't contradict myself.

 

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34 minutes ago, Artsu said:

Maths is upper Orange, which is Modelling.

It is not.  Orange isn't interested in models for their own sake.  Orange doesn't value understanding/wisdom in itself, it values achievement.

No idea where you're getting these ideas from, but they're wrong.

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