Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

[Evil Raccoon]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am able to communicate from any color of the Spiral depending on what is appropriate to the situation. I'm not limited to operating from one color.

I wanna see you being Red! Go gangsta mode in your next vid!

[Eren Eeager]

MBS is one revolutionary stage Orange personality and he already made a lot of progress in Sudia arabia and planning to make a lot more in the future. 

Study MBS if you wanna see stage orange person making changes in stage blue community.

Edited January 12, 2021 by Eren Eeager

[Loving Radiance]

3 hours ago, Evil Raccoon said:

I wanna see you being Red! Go gangsta mode in your next vid!

Lol, what would that video be about?

[Evil Raccoon]

@Loving Radiance I dunno, on how to be a "Spiral Wizard" to adapt to certain situations.Like if u're in the hood or some shit you're probably gonna get your ass kicked if you go Green/Hippie or Blue/Dweeb mode when interacting with people.

Edited January 12, 2021 by Evil Raccoon

[Rilles]

1 hour ago, Evil Raccoon said:

@Loving Radiance I dunno, on how to be a "Spiral Wizard" to adapt to certain situations.Like if u're in the hood or some shit you're probably gonna get your ass kicked if you go Green/Hippie or Blue/Dweeb mode when interacting with people.

I wanna see him go Beige and suck his thumb.

[Carl-Richard]

https://www.facebook.com/thenotoriousmma/photos/a.1723387767729515/3911297282271875

[Rilles]

I got bamboozled!

[Raphael]

 

[ItsNick]

I don't know very much about Teddy Roosevelt to place him anywhere on the Spiral.

But I found this speech he supposedly gave quite inspiring.

I wanna say this is healthy Orange. Or maybe it's healthy Blue. Either way there is little healthy Orange in this subforum here at all. So here's something.

Edited January 14, 2021 by ItsNick

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

ORANGE at least believes in Democracy

Not necessarily, not automatically. Be careful with pigeonholing Orange to this one kind of government.

[DocWatts]

4 hours ago, ItsNick said:

I don't know very much about Teddy Roosevelt to place him anywhere on the Spiral.

But I found this speech he supposedly gave quite inspiring.

I wanna say this is healthy Orange. Or maybe it's healthy Blue. Either way there is little healthy Orange in this subforum here at all. So here's something.

Teddy Roosevelt was one of the most interesting people to ever end up in the Oval Office, but make no mistake he was also an unabashed Imperialist, and romanticized War as a noble endeavour. He has elements of both Blue and Orange.

[Rilles]

This was my favourite video when I was an edgelord atheist. Still alot of good insights in it thought! 

[Evil Raccoon]

On 1/15/2021 at 2:12 AM, Leo Gura said:

Not necessarily, not automatically. Be careful with pigeonholing Orange to this one kind of government.

But Leo! You said in the stage Red episode that despite being greedy and selfish Orange, unlike Red,  was for Democracy while Red wanted a Totalitarian regime.

[Carl-Richard]

There is this book I'm reading, that when describing the way that the pre-socratic philosophers were thinking, stresses how different it was from "our" current way of thinking, using words like "concrete", "simplistic", "childlike", "direct" etc.. This reminds me of Piaget's "concrete operational cognition", which is analogous to Blue, but not quite Orange (that would be "formal operational"). In this stage, logical operations are possible, but hypothetical and abstract thinking is limited.

It gives the impression that the ability to think rationally wasn't simply an untapped resource in the human that was ready to be expressed given the correct circumstances (social and economic security -> increased freetime). It was rather a result of a complex, incremental, and transactional process of individual geniuses impacting culture and culture impacting other individual geniuses, and over time establishing a theoretical base that allowed others to be better inclined to evolve in that direction.

A stage of cognitive development that virtually all children in modern societies will reach by age 11 is only possible because the culture is fully established in formal operational cognition. The first Greek philosophers, who were fully grown adults 2500 years ago, had to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while pushing the edge of the culture to barely even touch that. They didn't have the luxury of piggybacking on thousands of years of development.

Imagine how incredibly inconvenient and slow your progress would be if you had no previously established theoretical frameworks to work with. On top of that, imagine yourself as essentially an 11 year old trying to figure out how the pieces are supposed to fit. Imagine the genius it takes to make any progress under those conditions. This truly demonstrates the influence that time has on culture and culture has on individuals. In this sense, regarding the fear that most people are will never be able to reach Tier 2 cognition, I believe the future looks way more promising than we could ever imagine.

Edited January 16, 2021 by Carl-Richard

[Jordan Welsh]

 

Great video by Russell Brant on unregulated capitalism & private cooperate lobbying in the Uk with the effects being financial profit over human wellbeing this case being reduced amount as well as lower quality food for working class children in relative poverty.

[Eren Eeager]

On 1/14/2021 at 6:42 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

I'm going to have to stop you right there, he belongs in the RED category.

ORANGE at least believes in Democracy, he's a king so that automatically excludes him. This bastard was responsible for the BRUTAL murder of Jamal Khashoggi and his idiodic family is funding ISIS and working with Israel and the U.S. to take down Iran.

nope he is orange not red. killing Jamal was "necessary" as he was actually funding and supporting anti-Saudi organization. Putin does a lot of these things but still He is orange. The other things you said are essentially bullshit. 

[Eren Eeager]

On 1/14/2021 at 6:42 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

ORANGE at least believes in Democracy

He found himself as a king. He won't just give away monarchy. you are asking him to die essentially.

 

[soos_mite_ah]

 

[Loving Radiance]

@soos_mite_ah Look at the contempt microexpression at 0:51

[DocWatts]

The work of Steven Pinker comes to mind when trying to come up with examples of contemporary public intellectuals who display some of the Healthier aspects of the Orange vMeme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker

Pinker's academic specializations are visual cognition and psycholinguistics. His experimental subjects include mental imagery, shape recognition, visual attention, children's language development, regular and irregular phenomena in language, the neural bases of words and grammar, and the psychology of cooperation and communication, including euphemism, innuendo, emotional expression, and common knowledge. He has written two technical books that proposed a general theory of language acquisition and applied it to children's learning of verbs. In particular, his work with Alan Prince published in 1989 critiqued the connectionist model of how children acquire the past tense of English verbs, arguing instead that children use default rules such as adding "-ed" to make regular forms, sometimes in error, but are obliged to learn irregular forms one by one.

Pinker is also the author of eight books for general audiences. The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), Words and Rules (2000), The Blank Slate (2002), and The Stuff of Thought (2007), describe aspects of psycholinguistics and cognitive science, and include accounts of his own research, arguing that language is an innate behavior shaped by natural selection and adapted to our communication needs. Pinker's The Sense of Style (2014), is a general language-oriented style guide.[9]

Pinker's book The Better Angels of Our Nature (2011) argues that violence in human societies has generally steadily declined over time, and identifies six major causes of this decline. Enlightenment Now (2018) uses social science data to show a general improvement of the human condition over recent history.

Edited January 19, 2021 by DocWatts