Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

[Derek White]

On 2018-06-24 at 3:09 AM, Leo Gura said:

bro culture

@Leo Gura Isn’t bro culture red? 

It has alpha/beta, victim/oppressor dynamics which should fall under purple and red right?

Also, when is stage red video coming out?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Derek White said:

I can’t believe no one posted my man Patrick Bet David from Valuetainment. His channel is truly amazing for integrating orange or just learning from skilled people. He is solid ? .

 

Ugh... just seeing that title and thumbnail makes me want to vomit.

47 minutes ago, Derek White said:

@Leo Gura Isn’t bro culture red? 

It has alpha/beta, victim/oppressor dynamics which should fall under purple and red right?

Also, when is stage red video coming out?

No, most bros I know are pretty solid Orange. At least in urban parts of America.

Red is pretty rare these days in developed parts of the world.

The difference between Orange and Red is that Orange will posture about being macho and alpha and may start a drunken bar fight, while Red will stab you in the throat with a fork and strangle your dog.

Joe Pesci from Casino, that's Red:

Don't fuck with Red.

[Derek White]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Ugh... just seeing that title and thumbnail makes me want to vomit.

I mean he’s got sone good content like interviews with Kobe, ex criminals, Deepak Chopra and this guy who is a world champion in memory. His ideology is pretty shit though. 

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference between Orange and Red is that Orange will posture about being macho and alpha and may start a drunken bar fight, while Red will stab you in the throat with a fork and strangle your dog.

I do remember this series of incidents which took place in grade 6 where some random student got hold of others notebooks and ripped each individual page into tiny pieces and hid the destroyed notebook in the class. It was pure hate and jealousy. No one found out who it was. So maybe that was stage red. Other than that I don’t think I know any stage red people.

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Derek White said:

I don’t think I know any stage red people.

Trump. At least partially. He's not a violent Red, but still.

[Derek White]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Trump. At least partially. He's not a violent Red, but still.

Yea but it’s sometimes hard for me to see it. I guess he is selfish, impulsive and doesn’t care that much about being a “good politician”, which something orange would care about. It’s more about dominating people for him, like a high school bully.

[remember]

@Derek White the inner impulse for dominance and slightly choleric outbreaks are all signs of red - a highschool bully bullying is always red. you could always ask how much red is in orange or how much yellow potential. a person always has a mixture of colours and very seldomly is always at home in their dominant spiral stage. stage red usually is ego outbreaks at its finest, if you would say trump twittering is the way he uses his pen... well ?

[Thewritersunion]

Trump bought the Death Note lmao, the official oneshot is on the Shonen Jump website.

 

[tenta]

14 minutes ago, Thewritersunion said:

Trump bought the Death Note lmao, the official oneshot is on the Shonen Jump website.

 

I'd say Minoru was stage orange, as he just wanted to make money by selling the thing.

[Thewritersunion]

@tenta Trump bought the Death Note lmao, the official oneshot is on the Shonen Jump website.

Nani

[tenta]

23 minutes ago, Thewritersunion said:

@tenta Trump bought the Death Note lmao, the official oneshot is on the Shonen Jump website.

Nani

Yeah I know, you said that and I read it before seeing this.

Edited February 9, 2020 by tenta

[Thewritersunion]

Found a good one

 

[Derek White]

The title and the thumbnail speak for themselves. The title is paradoxical.

 

[Thewritersunion]

 

got another good one! ✌️ 

[-Rowan]

I saw this advert today and saw it as Orange mocking green. Is this accurate?

[Apparition of Jack]

@-Rowan I'd say so yeah, or maybe it's Orange making fun of Orange-Green marketing.

[Leo Gura]

An Orange materialist misunderstanding Green & Turquoise:

 

[Apparition of Jack]

To me "The Invention of Lying" is a perfect encapsulation of stage Orange attitudes religion/spirituality. In the movie Ricky Gervais' character is the first human in history to be able to lie, and so he uses this ability to "make up" stories of God, the afterlife and so on.

 

[dmwrss]

@leogura I’m curious why you cite visual art such as cubism, abstract expressionism, and surrealism as stage orange examples. I’ve always considered surrealism to be similar to dreams/visual mystical experiences. And art in general has a transcendent quality to it, does it not? 

[Apparition of Jack]

Just now, dmwrss said:

@leogura I’m curious why you cite visual art such as cubism, abstract expressionism, and surrealism as stage orange examples. I’ve always considered surrealism to be similar to dreams/visual mystical experiences. And art in general has a transcendent quality to it, does it not? 

If I had to posit a guess, it would be because cubism, expressionism etc. was a reaction of the stuffy formalism of the stage Blue society it came form, and was used to express things like individualism, self-identity, one's own passion, the absurdity of excessive formalism such that was found in classical art, and so on. It's not really Green because it's not expressing feelings of love, humanity, ecology, etc and its not Turquoise because it wasn't really about mystical insights and oneness, although it may have had some Green elements to it.

[Leo Gura]

On 3/4/2020 at 0:11 AM, Apparition of Jack said:

If I had to posit a guess, it would be because cubism, expressionism etc. was a reaction of the stuffy formalism of the stage Blue society it came form, and was used to express things like individualism, self-identity, one's own passion, the absurdity of excessive formalism such that was found in classical art, and so on. It's not really Green because it's not expressing feelings of love, humanity, ecology, etc and its not Turquoise because it wasn't really about mystical insights and oneness, although it may have had some Green elements to it.

That's a good explanation.

If you studied art history you know most of Western art since Christ was about religious propaganda and displays of civilizational power. Portraits of kings, etc. That was stage Blue.

Then came Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, Picasso, Abstract Expressionism, Andy Warhol, etc. which threw that stage Blue paradigm in the trash in favor of individualistic artistic expression, materialism, breaking conventions, etc. Stage Green didn't really exist back then.