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Selfish enlightenment?

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Is seeking enlightenment selfish and self absorbed?

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1 minute ago, Charlotte said:

Is seeking enlightenment selfish and self absorbed?

Enlightenment is very selfish, because everything real is the self. 

 


Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind

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1 minute ago, Dodo said:

Enlightenment is very selfish, because everything real is the self. 

Very true. 

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1 minute ago, aurum said:

@Charlotte

It can be, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

 

Oh I'll never stop @aurum ?

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enlightenment is a very selfish act...

Until you are enlightened.

In the west at least.

Some people in the east actually do pursue enlightenment from a non egotsitical perspective, its called the path of devotion or bhakti.

But those people are rare.

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Cannot be done in group. It is alone, unique path. 

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5 hours ago, Charlotte said:

Is seeking enlightenment selfish and self absorbed?

Enlightenment is seeing that the selfish/self absorbed one is illusory...only "apparently" real.


“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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22 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

Enlightenment is seeing that the selfish/self absorbed one is illusory...only "apparently" real.

You speak from the divine feminine point of view ;) 

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selfish

ˈsɛlfɪʃ/

adjective

(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for other people; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

 

Since when caring about yourself is a "bad" thing? People, I swear. We are raised to put others above us and thats why there is dissatisfaction, I always put myself first but I never considered myself selfish.

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13 minutes ago, Quanty said:

You speak from the divine feminine point of view ;) 

:)

 

...and, @Ether you are absolutely correct it's not selfish.


“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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@electroBeam Thanks for your input

@Quanty I agree. I'm referring to the motives behind seeking enlightenment. 

@Anna1 I understand, but still, until enlightened it's still for 'the self by the self', paradoxical really. 

@Ether I also agree. 

@Nahm ?♥️

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@Charlotte My answer is that It's not selfish for the apparent person to seek its true nature.


“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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1 hour ago, Anna1 said:

@Charlotte My answer is that It's not selfish for the apparent person to seek its true nature.

Good point. That's why Enlightenment is also called Self-realization. 'You' as Awareness become Self-aware. 

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12 minutes ago, Natasha said:

Good point. That's why Enlightenment is also called Self-realization. 'You' as Awareness become Self-aware. 

I actually don't take Self-realization (recognition of one's true nature) to be the same as enlightenment (full assimilation of that recognition), but I know some do. 

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“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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I don't think it's possible for something to not be selfish.

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