Fear of losing myself

[robdl]

4 minutes ago, Faceless said:

Precisely

And effort/volition -- this sense of doing, striving.  Completely flavoured by time, fear, and desire.

[Faceless]

2 minutes ago, robdl said:

And effort/volition -- this sense of doing, striving.  Completely flavoured by time, fear, and desire.

The self(time) attempting to use time (movement of self) to end time. 

The ultimate contradiction indeed. 

[robdl]

Citing spiritual authority -- flavoured by:

knowledge (having accumulated their teaching),

fear (seeking security in their teaching)

time (using memory/the past to recall their teachings/knowledge)

self (I am a Buddhist/Christian and here's what my tradition says about it)

 

Therefore citing spiritual authority can quite easily be a movement of thought-self asserting/propagating.

Edited June 21, 2018 by robdl

[robdl]

6 minutes ago, Faceless said:

The self(time) attempting to use time (movement of self) to end time. 

The ultimate contradiction indeed. 

Or the self (desire) attempting to use desire (movement of self) to end desire.

lol

[Faceless]

10 minutes ago, robdl said:

Citing spiritual authority -- flavoured by:

knowledge (having accumulated their teaching),

fear (seeking security in their teaching)

time (using memory/the past to recall their teachings/knowledge)

 

Therefore citing spiritual authority can quite easily be a movement of thought-self asserting/propagating.

Yes. 

Any movement of conforimty to thought, (experience, knowledge, memory), is the same as clinging to the self/ego. 

The self seeks security in its own movement. But the self and it’s content (experience, knowledge, memory) is one and the same process of fear. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Faceless

[Faceless]

3 minutes ago, robdl said:

Or the self (desire) attempting to use desire (movement of self) to end desire.

lol

Bingo lol 

 

[robdl]

Duality is kind of  hilarious.  50 seemingly different ways that seem opposed, separate, unique, conflicting --- to speak of ONE AND THE SAME movement!

Edited June 21, 2018 by robdl

[Faceless]

5 minutes ago, robdl said:

Duality is kind of  hilarious.  50 seemingly different ways that seem opposed, separate, unique, conflicting --- to speak of ONE AND THE SAME movement!

The nature of thought loves to cut ‘things’ to pieces, and be totally blind to that very doing. 

Well said @robdl

 

 

[robdl]

4 minutes ago, Faceless said:

The nature of thought loves to cut ‘things’ to pieces, and be totally blind to that very doing. 

Well said @robdl

 

 

Because it's in thought's very nature to thing-ify, make distinctions.

[robdl]

There's an insight that is unitary, whole, and then thought seems to have the capacity to thing-ify it later.

[Arman]

Has faceless found his soul-mate??? 

[Faceless]

14 minutes ago, robdl said:

Because it's in thought's very nature to thing-ify, make distinctions.

Thats it. 

 

 

[White]

4 minutes ago, Arman said:

Has faceless found his soul-mate??? 

 

 

[robdl]

5 minutes ago, Arman said:

Has faceless found his soul-mate??? 

 

We're buying a timeshare together in Scottsdale.

[Ananta]

[Ananta]

1 hour ago, robdl said:

Citing spiritual authority -- flavoured by:

knowledge (having accumulated their teaching),

fear (seeking security in their teaching)

time (using memory/the past to recall their teachings/knowledge)

self (I am a Buddhist/Christian and here's what my tradition says about it)

 

Therefore citing spiritual authority can quite easily be a movement of thought-self asserting/propagating.

I'm the only one in the thread that cited a tradition. Was this directed to me? Was I suppose to comment?

[robdl]

4 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

I'm the only one in the thread that cited a tradition. Was this directed to me? Was I suppose to comment?

Nah. This tendency is universal.  I've done it.

Edited June 21, 2018 by robdl

[Ananta]

1 minute ago, robdl said:

Nah.

Good, cause I'm a little tired and not in the mood. You enjoy your non-teaching and I'll enjoy my teaching.  Lol

[Faceless]

13 minutes ago, robdl said:

Nah. This tendency is universal.  I've done it.

Yes, the only way to learn is to see this actuality in ourselves. This is self learning/self reflection, to understand oneself. 

 

[Ananta]