Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

[Preety_India]

@Vipassana I strongly imagined that you would be replying to me. Voila! 

@Leo Gura finally found the video! Here it is. 

 

[Rilles]

When you level up from Red to Blue!

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Rilles said:

When you level up from Red to Blue!

The precise moment when you suddenly realize that your entire identity as an American patriot was just an ego-game

 

[Carl-Richard]

@Preety_India I can't look at that guy's eyes. He's too scary ?

[Thewritersunion]

@Husseinisdoingfine ooop

[tuckerwphotography]

On 11/2/2020 at 11:58 AM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

Good one! Biden's got that great Blue touch that Clinton lacked. Might just be the edge he needs to win the presidency. 

[Rilles]

 

[Raphael]

These girls give me a traditional stage blue vibe

 

[Loving Radiance]

19:27 - 20:50 How can you have morals which aren't coming from a book?

[Carl-Richard]

The title is misleading btw. It's a disagreement between a moral absolutist (Blue) and a moral relativist (high-Orange). Notice how the absolutist tries to frame the relativist's views as ridiculous.

 

[Leo Gura]

Is rape objectively wrong?

Lol

Of course not. Nothing is objectively anything.

This is what the absolutist needs to be told. The relativist guy is still not properly relativist. He does not want to flat out say that rape is not wrong.

[Loving Radiance]

@Leo Gura  That's like saying to the absolutist that the sky is green. It doesn't compute for him.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Loving Radiance said:

@Leo Gura  That's like saying to the absolutist that the sky is green. It doesn't compute for him.

Of course

Can't fix stupid.

[Rilles]

 

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The relativist guy is still not properly relativist. He does not want to flat out say that rape is not wrong.

Dare I say he is relatively relativist . He is trying to clothe subjectivity with objectivity, which is syntactically taxing and excessive. Maybe he is using it as a rhetorical device, to maintain good optics, or it's just based on an internal drive to be objective.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Fadl]

Is this blue or sth else? 

 

 

[tuckerwphotography]

1 hour ago, Fadl said:

Is this blue or sth else? 

 

 

@Fadl Definitely Stage Blue

[Fadl]

1 hour ago, tuckerwphotography said:

Definitely Stage Blue

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Fadl said:

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

They're Hasidic jews.

[tuckerwphotography]

11 minutes ago, Fadl said:

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

@Fadl Hasidic Jews are textbook stage Blue. Read the description of Blue below then watch the videos you posted and decide for yourself. Certainly there's also aspects of Purple, Red and Orange present, but the community as a whole is SOLID Blue.

 

Blue “Order” vMEME

After the very individualistic Red vMEME, the next level goes back again to the more community-focused orientation. The Blue “Purposeful/Authoritarian” vMEME, as the fourth “awakening,” began about 5,000 years ago. The basic rules for the Blue vMEME are:Life has meaning, direction and purpose with outcomes determined by an all-powerful Other or Order. This vMEME brings discipline to the spiral because you are now “following a higher order.”

The characteristic beliefs and actions of the Blue vMEME include:

Sacrificing of the self to the transcendent Cause, Truth, or righteous Pathway.

Allowing the Order to enforce a code of conduct based on eternal, absolute unvarying principles of “right” and “wrong”—there is one right way to live and deviations from the path are punished.

Following the right path produces security now and guarantees future reward; if you don’t follow the path, well, you’ve made your choices.

Displaying missionary zealotry, which can be short on evidence and long on belief and faith, as well as closed minds. When you run into people with very rigid thought structures, you are dealing with someone who is residing at the Blue vMEME.

Engaging in pleasurable acts is seen as frivolous; humor is rare; actions are based in judgment not compassion, although there is a lot of talk about compassion.

Operating from a fundamentalist, conventional, traditional, and conformist worldview.

Where do you find the Blue vMEME expressed? The following provides a sample:

Christian and Islamic fundamentalism, Puritan America, Dickensian England, Singapore’s strict discipline, witch hunts, codes of chivalry and honor, the Spanish Inquisition, the caste system in India, Frank Capra’s It’s a Wonderful Life, Boy and Girl Scouts, and patriotism.

The Blue vMEME includes 35% to 40% of the world population, and 25% to 30% of the power. The figures are somewhat lower in the United States.

The following provides more detail about the typical qualities seen in the Blue “Order” vMEME.

Characteristics: Only one right way; Purpose in causes; Guilt in consequences; Sacrifice for honor

Decision making: Orders from authority; Do right, obey rules; Adhere to tradition; Righteous earn spoils

Education: Truth from authority; Traditional stair steps; Moralistic lessons; Punishment for errors

Family: Seat of truths and values; Proper places for all, respect for parents; Codes of conduct; Teaches moral ways

Community: Peace-and-quiet; Cautious and careful; Tidy, green, and neat; Born into society

Life space: Law abiding citizen, Places for everybody; Seeks peace of mind; Rewards to come

The Blue vMEME is one the core constituencies of the Republican Party and comprises the “moral majority” in the United States today.

Edited November 8, 2020 by tuckerwphotography