Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

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You won't believe the deep blueness of this (poor) old man...

(especially towards the end of the video)

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Its easy to think that these new SJW and PC people are the "obvious green" emerging form orange/blue western societies. Talking about inequality, compassion, understanding, put yourself in my shoe. That's how it seems when you are lazy about it and do not observe enough.

If you do, you'll see quite fast that the absolutist/authoritarian element is way greater than the relativistic. And that the green element is used only as a cake topping.

 

 


"If you immediately know the candle-light is fire then the meal was cooked along time ago"

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Very deep blue resisting orange

 

 


I know you're tired but come. This is the way - Rumi

 

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura book > film. 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura You said that it’s not possible to jump over the spiral dynamics stages. But this man seems to have jumped from ‘extreme blue’ to green, skipping over orange. What is your explanation?

 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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@How to be wise A 20 minute video is not going to give you a sense of what that guy actually went through to get to where he is now. He's telling a story. He's highly condensed and over-simplified it. It took him years to go through that, so he is not giving you a full picture of his entire life, he's only telling you certain facets which play into this narrative of going from Nazi to Green. That phase of working at IBM probably included lots of Orange development.

Also, you don't know his full starting position. He was probably already half orange when started out.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@How to be wise and @Leo Gura: He was surely self-actualizing, wasn't he? Plus may I dare to suggest that having children of your own and having your mother diagnosed with cancer may have played a significant role.

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So yes, i'm one of the remaining 800 Samaritans from video above, i think my community is at stage blue and will be for a long time.

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Blue.jpg

Former Phillipines President 

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42 minutes ago, martin_malin said:

 

Came here to post this.. beat me to it. 

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@SoothedByRain Do yon think that she is also Blue ? Responses to her "little expiriment" are definitely Blue, but she seems to have some orange and/or green. She talk about free speech and use a concept of god/allah different than Blue thinking. 

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On 19/06/2018 at 6:39 PM, Joel3102 said:

Lol I wonder if Alex Jones is actually blue. He seems so insane sometimes I wonder if it’s all an act 

+1 on that. He is not as anal (to use Leo expression) as a lot of Blue. Others have toughts on him ?

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