Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

[Revolutionary Think]

@Leo Gura agreed nationalism is an illusion of the ego. It's created by people the ground doesn't have a name it's humans that say this/that soil is ours etc. 

[sarapr]

 No one's found anything on Korean, Japanese or Chinese blue people?

These countries still remain mostly alien to us. 

[White]

@OBEler

8 hours ago, OBEler said:

He is an good example of yellow/turquise I thing, he was a strong system thinker thats for sure, not enlightened but very close to enlightenment I think.

What?

[tsuki]

Hey, @Leo Gura.
I just thought that it would be a good idea to put this thread in a form of a playlist on your channel.
You could create playlists for all colors like that.
You could synergize your forum with youtube that way.

[SoothedByRain]

@sarapr  I couldn't find anything on Hermit Japan worth sharing but it was obviously Deep Blue for so much of the last 500 to a 1000 years (No idea how long) Scorsese's newest movie Silence is all about Japan defending itself against Jesuit Priests and Catholicism. Trailer below. It is a long film and great for observing Ego and history. I recommend. Beautiful Cinematography.

I doubt there are any documentaries of worth talking about such since there is no footage or pictures etc. Perhaps there are books people might be able to recommend. I'm not sure what other Hermit like Kingdoms or Empires there were throughout history. I only know of Japan and todays North Korea. These two are another Deep Blue Extreme very much like how Nazi Germany or Communist China is an Extreme Deep Blue. Man made Dejima in Nagasaki is pretty fascinating to look at for an hour. The Japanese were brutal at defending their truth and collective ego.

[WildeChilde]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@WildeChilde Enough of this nationalist nonsense.

I don't even understand why you're on this forum. Consciousness is not for you.

Nationalism is ego, plain and simple.

@Leo Gura

This'll be my last one Leo.  I realized I’ve probably crossed the line here and will be leaving.  I’m still going to watch your videos, buy your products (they’ve been very helpful), and keep my meditation routine going.  

Just to clarify, I’m not a Neo-Nazi.  History can be written and interpreted in various ways, and unless we were there when it happened, can we really know for certain?  This is why I remain open to whatever the evidence may be.  As you can see from my previous quote, I’m not praising Hitler; I simply wanted to demonstrate that he may not be the purely evil, two-dimensional character he is often depicted as.  This was the only depiction I was given while attending school and university.

Further, I’m not a nationalist.  I am, however, proud of my heritage and the contributions of those that came before me.  If I understand correctly Leo, you and your family immigrated to the United States from Europe when you were younger.  In contrast, many of my ancestors have resided here prior to even the Revolution.  Several of my forefathers fought wars here.  I own the helmet of my grandfather from when he fought in WWII.  My father also served in the military for this country and volunteered to fight in Vietnam.  When you have this kind of heritage and learn about it at an early age, you really come to appreciate and honor those that came before you.  It took a lot of struggle so I’d be here enjoying my life in a powerful, developed country.

I wanted to post in this thread because I’m in Stage Blue and wanted to show you all how many of us think.  

You’re probably right Leo; consciousness work is not right for me.  I’m going to keep at it still, and maybe things will change.  If not, that’s okay too; I’ve had fun and had some interesting experiences I wouldn’t have had otherwise.

I’ve learned a great deal and have a lot of respect for you and everyone on here.  I hope ultimately you all find what you are looking for.  Farewell everybody. 

[How to be wise]

@Joseph Maynor Lol, mike pence has been known to kiss Trump’s ass. Very obedient man.

Watch this video it’s very funny! ? 

[Elisabeth]

3 hours ago, WildeChilde said:

I wanted to post in this thread because I’m in Stage Blue and wanted to show you all how many of us think.  

I think you're early orange, at least in your online appearance. Way too extravagant for blue. Way too much showing off. Maybe you were blue not so long ago or you're still blue if real-life punishment is around the corner, but right here, you're trying to solidify your identity by these stupid teenage provocations. Sounds like orange. 

Anyway, if you're leaving now, good luck. 

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura well I think you should study Hitler again. He had no personal hate against jews, not at all. He used hate against jews to manipulate the masses. Nevertheless he also saw a problem in them because they controlled the financial system back in these days. His main goal was to liberate human mankind from this financial system. If there would be another option than killing all jews to destroy the financial system he would take this option, then he would not kill one jew. But there was no other option in the middle of a world war.  

“Mind and soul ultimately return to the collective being of the world. If there is a God, then he gives us not only life but also consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my God-given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I know that I have acted in good faith.” Adolph Hitler

[Amit]

Blue national anthem debate. Indian media

Edited June 21, 2018 by Amit
Incorrect sentence

[Mondsee]

Many organizations have a document called Code of Ethics, which is IMO a perfect example of what blue is about. Not surprisingly, many bureaucrats, and civil servants, (and other types of employees) are asked to read and sign such documents before taking office. It's supposed to be a tool to avoid corruption, and it may as well be. If you have the chance, check out one of those "codes", they're as blue as they can be.

[Thanatos13]

38 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura well I think you should study Hitler again. He had no personal hate against jews, not at all. He used hate against jews to manipulate the masses. Nevertheless he also saw a problem in them because they controlled the financial system back in these days. His main goal was to liberate human mankind from this financial system. If there would be another option than killing all jews to destroy the financial system he would take this option, then he would not kill one jew. But there was no other option in the middle of a world war.  

“Mind and soul ultimately return to the collective being of the world. If there is a God, then he gives us not only life but also consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my God-given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I know that I have acted in good faith.” Adolph Hitler

There is a good deal of issues here, but you seem to be making the man out to be something he wasn’t. Genocide isn’t the answer since it usually throws the baby out with the bath water. 

Secondly, there isn’t anything blue about this master list. It’s just the opinion of a everyone on here. There isn’t anything factual about this list. Even spiral dynamics is dubious at best. It reads like someone arbitrarily decides what is higher and lower. It kind of reinforces my view that spirituality is all in your head.

Also morality isn’t something you transcend. There isn’t some cosmic ladder we are climbing. That is once again just the opinion of someone else. Plus there is already a word for it, nihilism. 

[Thanatos13]

Doesn’t really address my point that the system is entirely arbitrary and these levels and categories are in our heads. 

Even the notion of growth and progress is really just in our heads, just like spirituality. 

[Tetcher]

8 minutes ago, Thanatos13 said:

Doesn’t really address my point that the system is entirely arbitrary and these levels and categories are in our heads. 

Even the notion of growth and progress is really just in our heads, just like spirituality. 

It triggered you pretty bad, I don't think an entirely arbitrary system would you like that.

[Key Elements]

1 hour ago, Thanatos13 said:

Doesn’t really address my point that the system is entirely arbitrary and these levels and categories are in our heads. 

Even the notion of growth and progress is really just in our heads, just like spirituality. 

You don't have to believe in anything. You don't have to take anyone's word into consideration. The thing is, do you have friends? And, once you make friends, how long do they last? If you look at someone else, how come you and that other person can only be acquaintances or even strangers? It's totally your choice to use Spiral Dynamics in this area to explore and discover if it's a guide or not.

[DnoReally]

18 hours ago, WildeChilde said:

I'm not going to put a link for the documentary that talks about it on here

Greatest name drop never made

[Leo Gura]

Hoho! The Blue mother lode.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lmfao]

Vigilante justice and mob mentality can run rampant in lawless criminal areas.

It's all about what "the community" wants. The community wants to murder this guy called William. William runs a private armed organization which collaborates with the police in the area. Although it hasn't been shown in this video, communities around this part in South Africa have been known to burn criminals alive.

Edited June 21, 2018 by lmfao

[How to be wise]

@Leo Gura you said earlier that 9/11 firefighters where stage blue. What made you think that?

[Revolutionary Think]

  The bad side of blue that makes a Jewish Rabbi into an anti-semite WOW. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Revolutionary Think