Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

[White]

6 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

Lol I wonder if Alex Jones is actually blue. He seems so insane sometimes I wonder if it’s all an act 

Nobody is that clever. If he's making it up then he's a fucking genius and deserves the next presidency job 

Edited June 19, 2018 by White

[Leo Gura]

51 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

Lol I wonder if Alex Jones is actually blue. He seems so insane sometimes I wonder if it’s all an act 

He's a toxic mix of Blue/Orange and probably has some legit mental issues.

It's very easy to believe your own bullshit when you start making millions of dollars every month selling your ideology as he does. At stage Orange, there is nothing beyond success and money, so when ideology becomes profitable, it's a killer combination from which Blue/Orange cannot escape. Money appears like the perfect validation of God's truth, creating a closed feedback loop of bullshit which feels very real to the person inside it.

[Leo Gura]

Jim Bakker is another Blue doozy that just boggles the mind.

It gets extra-delicious when you read his criminal record on Wikipedia.

[Leo Gura]

This one is great for showing that the Blue mindset sits so deep, it's unconscious, like a body reflex.

[Leo Gura]

Classic Blue

[Leo Gura]

Inside the mind of average Blue folks.

[Genghis Khan]

I can definitely appreciate the spirit of positive blue people in my life. They have strong integrity and never deviate from their principles. They really truly believe in their religion and country and are totally immersed in striving to be an impeccably "good" person. I find it rather charming but they don't see past their own biases to understand that people who disagree with their ideology are actually trying to be the best person they can, just as they are.

Personally, I find it rather difficult to follow this mindset myself but that's only evidence that I'm not blue. 

Does there exist any test to determime what stage one lies? Asides from examination by someone who is well versed in psychology and utilization of this model?

[lmfao]

This is slightly off topic but if you want to find "Red" people then look to criminals. The guy here is a genuine thug, and he's a textbook example of the greatest danger that can arise from red. 

The name of the guy being interviewed is "maleven". Imagine a society overrun with people like this guy. Utterly dysfunctional. Shows where blue comes from.

Edited June 20, 2018 by lmfao

[Leo Gura]

 

[Leo Gura]

@lmfao We'll start a separate thread for Red in the future. So save your Red examples for that one.

[lmfao]

@Leo Gura yeah boi

[White]

@Genghis Khan

Yeah you can do the test here. It's pricey 

[Leo Gura]

You don't need an expensive test. If you watch my 6-part series, by the end of it, you'll know which colors you resonate with.

[Sahil Pandit]

@Leo Gura Are you going to shoot another Systems Thinking video to help people understand this on a deeper level?

Let the holistic thinking begin!

[Genghis Khan]

@White That's probably too pricey for me. 

I did find a free test and the results were quite interesting. Of course the results can be attributed more to the test than myself, depending on it's design. But I'll share them because as it turns out, I happen to be blue. 

26% Blue

20% Orange

20% Green

13% Yellow

20% Turquoise

Judging from these results, I must have a very conflicted mind, or perhaps very flexible. Maybe it represents the differing aspects of my psychology. It may be worth taking into consideration that Yellow is the weakest of my attributes. This suggests Yellow stage thinking is something I lack, revealing where work needs to be done.

@Leo Gura I agree. My perception of these stages should be concise enough to measure myself after viewing your in depth explanation of each stage. Personally, I find your manner of speaking and approach to these topics very illuminating and easy to comprehend. I trust these videos are being released consecutively?

Not to be pushy, but the anticipation is killing me!

 

Edited June 20, 2018 by Genghis Khan

[Leo Gura]

Here's a really good example of healthy Blue. Standing up for principles, truth, rule of law, integrity, and decency.

Trump has actually fractured the Blue/Orange Republican party. The more evolved and moderate Blues are forced to denounce Trump's Redish qualities.

[White]

@Genghis Khan I wouldn't be so hasty to draw any conclusions from a free test. Maybe you are 2nd tier cognition but have a green values, blue self, orange skills. There are different lines and development of each line can be at any point on the spiral. Thats why a test is good because it shows you what you need to work on. For example slow down on mere cognitive learning and allow your self and emotions to catch up so that you're more even. 

The wilber/coombs matrix is helpful but can't diagnose you. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by White

[White]

@Genghis Khan

By the way, I'm not a shill. There are other peoples tests you can take. I just know this one because I study her work 

Edited June 20, 2018 by White

[Colin]

This is a good movie that showcases healthier aspects of blue

[Genghis Khan]

@White Very insightful actually. Thanks for your information. Spiral dynamics makes much more sense when one takes lines into consideration. Your statement may very be accurate considering my own introspection. 

 I'm not 2nd tier, but as you said, I'm capable of 2nd tier cognition, when analyzing the world around me. So I've gained a sophisticated perception of knowledge itself and how to treat it. As in I'm construct-aware. However my cognitive ability to penetrate the perception of a 2nd tier perspective has not been integrated with my entire psyche. 

I could consider that I have green values based on what I emotionally lean towards. I'm orange in approach when it comes to professional life, through and through. Behind all this, I have blue tendencies, which must be dug up, obviously. 

Do you think I am unique in this regard? Or is it simply the result of an unconscious mind striving to be more conscious and aware of the truth of this reality and is a commnality among people working towards a larger perception of reality, and in turn, of themselves?

Your advice is valid.

I found the scientific paper on the wilber combs matrix. It will take time to read through it. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by Genghis Khan