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Leo's stage blue video is good.

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Just finished the stage blue video. This is the first I've heard of Spiral Dynamics. What an interesting model. I'm wondering which colour I will fall into since blue doesn't resonate with me. I've googled spiral dynamics and had a brief look at the very basic diagrams but I appreciate your thorough dissections, Leo! I shall look forward to hearing all about the other colours in depth, too! :)

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@Joseph Maynor It's kinda funny how you use labels like "thought-story" to defend your belief in the absolute importance of life purpose while you criticise Leo for being too "absolutist about his beliefs".

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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Too many snipers on this Forum now.  I’m gonna create my own Network with people I can collaborate with on a less adversarial basis.

@Joseph Maynor I was wondering why haven't you done this already.
There seems to be very few people you can talk with without rustling hostility (?) for whatever reason.
Just curious.


Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I’ve outgrown the Forum that’s all.  It’s ok.  I hope I was able to influence somebody here.  Maybe one of you gets it.  I doubt it will be a lot who resonate with me.  My teachings are not gonna resonate with probably almost everybody.  I would say 10% of you max will resonate with me.  That doesn’t surprise me.  I’m scary advanced.

We are quite a few that like your teachings here though. Just look at your number of followers, you outnumber every hater in that regards.


Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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37 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You ignorantly attack me because you don’t understand anything I say.

@Joseph Maynor I would like to bring back our discussion about the absolute statements from before in the context of the sentence I'm quoting.
You are either saying this as an absolute statement, or describing your perspective.
You are surely not talking about absolutes, so that statement really says more about you (Joseph) than the person (collective?) you claim to be attacked by.

Are you sure that you are not pushing yourself into a corner by thinking that you are 'scary advanced'?
After all, it is reasonable to expect people to get upset after establishing such a hierarchy between you and them.
You are interpreting our (their?) posts through the lens of superiority.
Expecting attacks is to be expected given such perspective.

To you, what is the value of the thought-stories about your own progress?
Calling yourself advanced is to populate the world with beginners.
Calling yourself a teacher is to populate the world with pupils.

Teaching is solicited when master is chosen by the pupil.

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Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I’m over your head frankly.  Let’s not communicate further.  Ok? I got 40,000 views on my Journals combined and you’re telling me I’m not a teacher.  Get real dude.  I’m the best teacher on here!  That is quantitatively obvious.  

Sure.
You are over my head. I'm a nobody 9_9.

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Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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@Nahm Silly Monkeys


We are all one spark, eyes full of wonder

“Take the lowest place, and you shall reach the highest.” 

“In the monastery of your heart, you have a temple where all Buddhas unite.” - Milarepa 

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@Nahm that's adorable. 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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i think ive conquered my arguments and conflicts with people. too much turmoil, no benefit, weakened relationships... whats the point of arguing? 

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@sarapr it's called a messiah complex. It's a sad thing most people get trapped in when doing enlightenment work. Easy to spot because there's nothing loving about them and they get really argumentative about all their "growth" and "spiritual attainment". They bullshit themselves into thinking they are higher then they already. Someone in turquoise wouldn't even give a shit about how all the stages are defined. There just concepts made up by some people at the end of the day. Good example of another messiah complex is naked reality from YouTube who ended up deleting or his videos eventually because he ended up seeing how he decieved himself and others. 

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1 hour ago, Nahm said:

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A deep stage Yellow strategic thinker in action ;)


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 hour ago, Nahm said:

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I still don't get it O.o

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@SBB4746 Are you saying that spiral dynamics is not Absolutely true?? 

You sound like it's nothing more Then just a human construction to map how different character traits tend to evolve. 

Yeah, I remember that naked reality guy, Rali I think he called himself. A special dude, I'll tell you. ?


Isn't it so, yes or no? 

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11 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I’m over your head frankly.  Let’s not communicate further.  Ok?  I got 40,000 views on my Journals combined and you’re telling me I’m not a teacher.  Get real dude.  I’m the best teacher on here!  That is quantitatively obvious.  Next to Leo, I’m probably the biggest draw to the Forum.  And you flippantly insult me with such eagerness.   I get 100-200 views on my Journal Vol. 4 per day.  I’m the smartest teacher on here.  Don’t fool yourself.

and I said you were full of yourself before this post hahahahah oh man this is rich xD xD

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@sarapr  I think you're close ;)


Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all of the barriers within yourself that you have built against it 

- A Course in Miracles

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13 minutes ago, sarapr said:

@Leo Gura how come when you edit your posts it doesn't write edited !?!:ph34r:

It does for me. I thought it did for you too.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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4 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I’m over your head frankly.  Let’s not communicate further.  Ok?  I got 40,000 views on my Journals combined and you’re telling me I’m not a teacher.  Get real dude.  I’m the best teacher on here!  That is quantitatively obvious.  Next to Leo, I’m probably the biggest draw to the Forum.  And you flippantly insult me with such eagerness.   I get 100-200 views on my Journal Vol. 4 per day.  I’m the smartest teacher on here.  Don’t fool yourself.

Could we have this on a plaque somewhere on the forum?

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