Sustainable Keanan

Implementing The Circular City Concept

11 posts in this topic

My Name is Keanan Stenson. Someone recently told me that I should get onto a forum because I have some intelligent ideas, so please note that I don't mean to come off pompous, condescending or like a moron but I'm new to this. 
I feel that I have an issue with with practically manifesting my ideas especially in this detrimental monetary world. So, simply put: I seek help from the co-creative abilities of fellow man.

I see all these painful things that the world endures and I know there's worse to come. However I refuse to fret over that which I, individually, have no influence over. So I look to the future and it's positively oriented possibilities...Which brings me to establishing a template or standing physical example by which the rest of the world can live by.

I've put a lot of thought into the insanity of the unthinking majority of the times and have decided to do what I must to establish a permaculture in this lifetime...But I feel lost without the hands of the many(and, Ironically, Money) to help build what is needed for humanity to thrive with the highest possible quality of life.

Anyway I've created a conceptual image to convey what I have going on in my head. I suck when it comes to verbally talking to people about what I have in my mind.  So I'm asking:What can I do to start pooling great minds, engineers, architects, and benefactors/sponsors of a philanthropic nature?

I have had the idea to go to the Steens Mountain area of Oregon, renouncing society to begin directing water and other resources single handedly...I'm just a bluesy kid hoping the world to change for the better.Aum Share%2FVenus project.png,
I admit there's much more detail to add to this, I only put a total of about 3 hours into this. I'm open to all criticisms but prefer suggestions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Sustainable Keanan prepare for heaps of resistance from humanity, not because your idea sucks, but because society will resist change as much as it can.

If you would like to discuss anything in relation to software or electrical hardware, give me a message. I'm always doing software side projects for the soul purpose of compassionately helping society at large grow into something more thriving. A collaboration could be a starting point, or an open door to something that investors like the look of.

One of my ideas is to produce smart cities that are 'alive'. The building infrastructure uses organic compounds and DNA computing to self repair itself, but to also evolve and morph depending on its interactions with the natural environment but also social environment. We could have human beings interacting with physical structures, changing policies to suit it, but at the same time have an organic city morph and evolve based on the surrounding politic and natural environment, coexisting in harmony.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Watch the osho documentary on netflix. He also build a type of community like this, it's really inspiring.

I don't know how you could possibly pull this off tho. You would have to start small I think and build from there.

One pointer, in almost all these types of communities they get ruined because ego slowly creeps in and the hierarchy structure gets misused. Look out for that one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@dude  You're absolutely right. Ego is a perfectly fine example of in any type of social structure, there is bound to be conflict in the microcosm (Escalated discourse between few) and the macrocosm (In the worst case scenario, a manipulation- or further manipulation- of false concepts of division. Too the extent where said manipulat ors either satiate their constant lusting after power, money and control or seek complete dominance over everything that they think they can). These types of people aren't ones to work alone.
---Back up froom THAT rabbit hole Keanan...That being though I thought of an app concept not TOO long ago that purpose is to: Be a civil engineering sort of networking system/organizer to catalogue voluntary individuals by their trade, craft or skill.

I watched the Osho documentary and actually...reflecting on what they did there just now, I'm actually blown away and think I need to watch it again because a lot of it's blurry. But the way they started working the earth so fast was amazing.

Anyway, I'm gettin there. Slowly but surely.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wait- that last part came out wrong. I'm getting there slowly but surely in the sense of: I'm chipping away at implementing a plan for a city template out in the yonder based on the concepts and principles of both the Venus Project and the UBUNTU party. But I need to learn how to network.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@electroBeam I actually have encountered someone who was working on a similar concept. I'm not sure how far they've gotten and I wish I would've written down the name of the project. I'm in love with that idea however I'm focused on being able to have construction machines engineered and programmed to be capable of replicating the city template using (mostly) pre-fabricated units. Pre-fab units/architecture that can be manipulated through the designing process to have a visual appeal and feel of various cultures. I think building a naturally rooted complex thing- pun intended- is a great damn idea and say 'Manifest the best to you.'

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You might like Joe Fresco's work: The Venus Project.  Personally, i think there are some flaws with his stuff and mission, but you might gain some insights and lessons fron studyi g his stuff as it seems related to your stuff.  


"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down"   --   Marry Poppins

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Sustainable Keanan said:

Lets dig into those flaws that you perceive if you're game?

Ya.  Soitenly! :)    Well... hmm... I'll start by saying I haven't dug deeply into his stuff so I'm no expert.  What I think he's good at and what I appreciate about his work is...

  • The creativity in his ideas, including the amount of ideas he has and his blue-sky thinking.  He just seems to be an idea machine and is really good at thinking creatively, no-holds bar.  Which I really appreciate. 
  • In principle, he seems to think holistically, ecologically, systemically, and sustainably, which I think is important.  Like the way he thinks and his ideas seem to all have the notion of things working together synergistically and optimally and smoothly. 
  • I think he also seems to talk about a vision which is humanistic and an overall more enjoyable and loving place for everyone.

Things I think he could improve upon and where I'm not so sold on his projects.

  • He seems to be an "all ideas guy" and get lost in the possibilities etc., and not be totally grounded and knowledgeable in the practicalities in actually making those things happen.  Like he talks about things like "whole cities where people wouldn't need cars and would use super-fast trains or conveyor belts" etc., but I've never really seen him discuss how he's gunna make that happen or what it takes to do that.
  • Sort of the same line of thinking as the last point, he seems to have his vision down pat, but the how is missing.  I reference an interview he did which sort of shows what I mean.
  • I've also heard, from the same interview, that his project is hard to pin down, and I myself have kind of gotten that vibe.  I guess the overall impression I get is that he's really good at imagining solutions to problems in the abstract, but that he's not great at delivering the practicalities in how it will be accomplished or data to show or actual things he's created.   

I don't doubt he's got some great ideas.  I guess I just think that what he's offered so far is only the vision part and idea generation and design side of things rather than laying out how things will be made, addressing practical concerns, and following through with practical data or examples, etc.  Like it sounds in his interviews, that he's selling sort of values, principles, and visions rather than tangible or practical results and things. 

Something along those lines.  I dunno if I totally capture it, but ya, that is/was my sort of general, first-hand impression.  And I dunno, maybe it's not totally accurate, but those were some of the things I felt irked by with him.  

Haha... sorry for the ramble.  It's funny how it's easy to spit out shit when talking about things you don't like about something or someone, but the things you like about them often, perhaps, don't get as much attention. Didn't mean to rip him up.  I think he's well-intentioned, has an idealistic spirit, great innovative creativity, but maybe lacking on the "how" of things and giving tangible results and not making the A-to-B leaps people often like to see so that he shows people it's more than just dreaming.  Like, if he spoke about one of his ideallic cities, but then actually went into some detail about a strategic plan about how it's possible to do with numbers n' data to support it, then I think I'd feel a bit more optimistic about his stuff.


"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down"   --   Marry Poppins

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now