Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Anna1 said: So, telling peeps to stop psychological thought without them knowing their true nature isn't going to work. I’m not telling anyone to stop psychological time. That is a movement of psychological time. There is no understanding ones true nature until all such movement ceases. This whole reward system motive is the reasom psychological time does not cease. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 And thinking is not bad. It has its function. But psychologically it has none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Faceless said: There is no understanding ones true nature until all such movement ceases. I have to agree! I just don't agree with your method. Like what does this sentence mean- "This whole reward system motive is the realm psychological time does not cease. " Why must you talk like that? “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Anna1 said: I have to agree! I just don't agree with your method. Like what does this sentence mean- "This whole reward system motive is the realm psychological time does not cease. " Why must you talk like that? 17 minutes ago, Anna1 said: So, telling peeps to stop psychological thought without them knowing their true nature isn't going to work. We only do things that benefit us Psychologically, which is where the very problem arises. The self seeks a reward. Its the movement of this i that prevents one from seeing what is. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Faceless said: Could there be a totally different approach that does not imply duality? yes there is. a catch-22 Edited June 13, 2018 by now is forever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 @Anna1 Do you see what I mean about reward? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Faceless said: We only do things that benefit us Psychologically, which is where the very problem arises. The self seeks a reward. Its the movement of this i that prevents one from seeing what is. Yes, it's true that everyone (including you) have preferences and desires, to some extent, otherwise why get out of bed? Go to work? Pay bills? However, desires (vasanas) can be neutralized. This doesn't mean you won't have any desires, but it means you have the option to do them, not to do them or do something all together different. Neutralizing vasanas (desires) goes hand and hand with "assimilation" of Self-knowledge. So, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass..lol. You can look it up..or not...or say I'm moving in thought. “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 No-thing gets me out of bed. That’s the beauty of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Faceless said: No-thing gets me out of bed. That’s the beauty of it. So, your laying in bed right now? Or did some-thing you desired get you up, even if it was the desire to take a pee. Lol “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Etagnwo said: but you're another arsehole Not that I care, but these kind of contents are what I constantly receive from you. I know that other people find it offensive, and hesitate to visit this forum because of you. Even though I can't care less since you only make a fool out of yourself, I can understand what people say to me in PM's. It's not cool to call people names, arseholes or whatever. Quote Gobbledygook? You really have to consume the teachings of faceless, don't you, Only to pin him down I never bother with teachings that I don't like, what's the point? I'm here because I think Leo and Faceless are the best teachers out there. I report your bullying now, please try to behave, it will make this forum a better place for all of us, not to mention all those people who hesitate to read the threads because of your bad language. Edited June 13, 2018 by MarkusSweden Isn't it so, yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Anna1 said: So, your laying in bed right now? Or did some-thing you desired get you up, even if it was the desire to take a pee. Lol Oh deer, ? Thats cute anna1 Anyways I wish you the best?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Faceless said: Oh deer, ? Thats cute anna1 Anyways I wish you the best?? Haha! Ditto. “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Faceless said: ??♂️ Since we're off topic anyways...what does this mean and how do you do it? “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said: It means talk to da hand. I don't know about that... look at this example: "Anyways I wish you the best??" “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 Everyone is enlightend here but I really like @Joseph Maynor‘s point. If someone knows the Truth it is better to explain it in the simplest way possible. If only you know then what’s the point? we all have the responsibility to share the truth in the most effective way we can and not condem others who is doing the same. Different people listen to different teachers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) You can’t share truth. Especially with one who is listening with ears and seeing with eyes what’s being communicated with an interpretation of the past (thought) The only way to truth is through self understanding, the understanding of the movement of thought. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Im fairly certain there is no easier way to explain what can not be explained. This is very complex and demands total attention without resistance preventing communication. If we don’t understand ourselves we cannot be attentive to another. all I see is resistence, which is why I usually respond with this guy??♂️ Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Etagnwo said: You're a one trick pony. What you're implying is that nobody elses teaching has worked for anyone else. Only yours and krishnamurti That's the shadow of your own teaching. The problem you face is that reality is telling you that it's incomprehensible, yet you don't take any notice and continue to plough on regardless. Having woken, erm, 2 people on the forum of which both are extremely questionable to say the least. Lol I cannot awaken anyone. ‘I’ cannot awaken “I” That’s my point. You guys are not seeing the deep down root of all of this. Its very subtle. I think one must understand there own inward movement. See it actually. Until then this will not make sense. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 @Joseph Maynor and @Etagnwo If you don’t see the significance then that’s it. It’s done. Carry on with your life. That simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Etagnwo said: Boredom. She pm me showing me photos of her cleavage and telling me how boring here marriage has been. This op is about me, can't you tell? I told her I was taking a break from speaking vedanta with me and next time I log on she's blocked me She's here for entertainment mate. That's all What? Bored? ...prove I said that??? Also, I showed u the same photo I posted on the forum. I didn't Block you? I opted out of our conversation, that's all, not because u don't know Vedanta either. If I blocked u I wouldnt have been able to see your post . You have a screw loose and you have enlightenment sickness...a very bad case! 2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said: You’re so great at drawing people into arguments, you realize that Anna. You love it. What’s behind that? I wasn't trying to argue? I was just saying it seemed like maybe it meant something else. I was chattin' back at ya. Geesh Project much?? Edited June 13, 2018 by Anna1 “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
