Sharing Enlightenment Topic With Others - They Think I Am Crazy

[Capethaz]

@Deutsche22 Keep the practice and see where it takes you.

[abrakamowse]

What I do is I tell them subtle things, like.... "we are nothing" when someone dies or some bad news, hehehe... people say it mindlessly without knowing is actually true.

Or saying, "it's god willing" , we know is always god willing, so someday they could realize how true that was, more than what they were taught on a church or religion.

 

And so on...

[ZenBlue]

It seems that many of us experience the same thing. I rarely meet people who are into this type of thing, so I usually don't talk about it unless other people bring up topics relating to this area.

Some people are not ready for the truth so they will react very strongly to this. A lot of people are operating on lower levels of consciousness. Just don't let the views of others hold you back from continuing your journey.

[Guest]

At least they don't exist

[Deutsche22]

On 3/19/2016 at 9:10 PM, Guest said:

At least they don't exist

LOL, that is funny, yes "they" don't.

[GodelEscherBach]

I am on the same boat, sharing Leos videos and idea, I learned that people dont want to be different and dont like people that wants to be different...

[Rodrigo]

@Deutsche22 They do not think you are insane and mock you.They are just sharing their thoughts with you. You want to share your thoughts with others, remember, share not convince them. Not getting upset with conflict.

[Denis]

It is definitely not something everyone will receptive to.  When I started to do self help and enlightenment work my life changed very fast for the better and I wanted to share it with everyone, my girlfriend, my friends family, but you have to understand this is not something you can force on anyone.  They have to be ready to receive it.  Luckily for me my girlfriend has welcomed it with open arms, some of my friends and family gave me some blank stares lol and I am sure had some interesting thoughts that they didn't voice.  Bottom line, just keep doing what you are doing.  The people that need to be in your life will be there, others will make they way out slowly.  And your family is the best meditation practice you can have.  As Ram Das says "if you think you are enlightened go spend a week with your family".  My family and their closed mindedness at times has really helped me become more present.

[abrakamowse]

We have to learn from others, that's true @Denis  There's a video about that from Leo.

 

[Henri]

A lot of relatives turned in a way their back on me in the past. They said I`d changed after spending some years in India. They did not understand me anymore and I did understand that!

It was not a problem to me.

Nowadays they come back, they want to talk. They are old aged and some died already. They are scared and I am there.

[abrakamowse]

We tend to value if you behave always the same. If you show some aspect of your identity, like being "good" or whatever, we have to behave always the same hehehe... so we have an "identity". So funny.

And I used to think that way of thinking was Ok. Now I feel that if I don't change from one day to the next I am stuck.

[Deutsche22]

On 4/16/2016 at 10:17 PM, GodelEscherBach said:

I am on the same boat, sharing Leos videos and idea, I learned that people dont want to be different and dont like people that wants to be different...

Yes, out of 30 people I may have told about this topic and steered them to Leo's videos, etc., maybe 3 have listened to me and maybe 1 that I can confirm watched a video. I will continue on my journey though and I'm determined to spread the word to whoever will listen, that is up to them.

Good luck!

[Deutsche22]

On 4/16/2016 at 2:32 AM, Rodrigo said:

@Deutsche22 They do not think you are insane and mock you.They are just sharing their thoughts with you. You want to share your thoughts with others, remember, share not convince them. Not getting upset with conflict.

Some of them, including my wife, are outright indignant and aggressively defensive. They are probably scared and just don't understand. I agree with you though, I will just continue to only share and the rest is up to them.

[Deutsche22]

On 4/18/2016 at 7:28 PM, Denis said:

It is definitely not something everyone will receptive to.  When I started to do self help and enlightenment work my life changed very fast for the better and I wanted to share it with everyone, my girlfriend, my friends family, but you have to understand this is not something you can force on anyone.  They have to be ready to receive it.  Luckily for me my girlfriend has welcomed it with open arms, some of my friends and family gave me some blank stares lol and I am sure had some interesting thoughts that they didn't voice.  Bottom line, just keep doing what you are doing.  The people that need to be in your life will be there, others will make they way out slowly.  And your family is the best meditation practice you can have.  As Ram Das says "if you think you are enlightened go spend a week with your family".  My family and their closed mindedness at times has really helped me become more present.

Thank you, Denis.  I will also continue my journey and the rest is up to everyone else. I will share the topic but if I sense resistance, then it is really good to put into practice the "surrender" aspect and simply move on.

 

Good luck!

[Deutsche22]

On 4/18/2016 at 0:54 AM, Henri said:

A lot of relatives turned in a way their back on me in the past. They said I`d changed after spending some years in India. They did not understand me anymore and I did understand that!

It was not a problem to me.

Nowadays they come back, they want to talk. They are old aged and some died already. They are scared and I am there.

Hi Henri,

 

Thank you! I have read many of your responses to multiple topics on this forum and very grateful for your wisdom.  I very advanced aware person told me recently, just "be the light", you do not to speak about awareness or Enlightenment, just be it. They will see it and perhaps they may seek it.

 

Good luck to you!

[Deutsche22]

On 4/19/2016 at 9:15 AM, abrakamowse said:

We tend to value if you behave always the same. If you show some aspect of your identity, like being "good" or whatever, we have to behave always the same hehehe... so we have an "identity". So funny.

And I used to think that way of thinking was Ok. Now I feel that if I don't change from one day to the next I am stuck.

I feel the same way that I must always exhibit change and growth in this journey but there are times and some days when I go "unconscious". However, they are fewer and farther between and I can notice more acutely when I am becoming unaware or not being mindful. I just had a "bad" day yesterday but I am back on track. That is great progress.

 

Good luck to you!

[Grasshopper]

On 3/14/2016 at 6:52 PM, Deutsche22 said:

I am a huge supporter and follower of Leo.

 

When I share the topic of enlightenment (or I should say, attempt to share it, due to the extremely radical and nearly incomprehensible nature of this topic) with others, they think I am insane.

 

Please share your thoughts and comments because this must be not only common but normal. My wife and close friends think I am crazy. Only one person I have shared this with is openminded enough to discuss it.

 

(By the way, many friends and even my wife have mocked self-help. Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life).

 

 

There are different levels of explanations you can give, to explain it in a more simple and relatable manner. You don't always need to explain emptiness or no-self. Perhaps instead, explain freedom from attachments and addictions, freedom from desire, the fact that acquiring new things doesn't give one happiness, etc. Everyone can relate to the same truth on some level.

Of course it also depends if you can trust the person to be vulnerable enough with the deeper explanations. What was is Jesus said, don't cast your pearls before swine? (not that people are swine, but that you can get unpredictable reactions)

[30secs]

if you want to share about Enlightenment, don't just tell them that "there is no self" set a simple example what you mean.

[Rodrigo]

@Deutsche22 Sharing pure behaviour is more powerfull than sharing words.

[Deutsche22]

On 4/23/2016 at 1:42 AM, Rodrigo said:

@Deutsche22 Sharing pure behaviour is more powerfull than sharing words.

Well said. That is what I was told..."be the light" or in other words, just be, don't talk about it. Others will just notice or not and that does not matter anyway.