Sharing Enlightenment Topic With Others - They Think I Am Crazy

[Deutsche22]

I am a huge supporter and follower of Leo.

 

When I share the topic of enlightenment (or I should say, attempt to share it, due to the extremely radical and nearly incomprehensible nature of this topic) with others, they think I am insane.

 

Please share your thoughts and comments because this must be not only common but normal. My wife and close friends think I am crazy. Only one person I have shared this with is openminded enough to discuss it.

 

(By the way, many friends and even my wife have mocked self-help. Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life).

 

 

[99th_monkey]

I suggest finding out who you are and keep it under your hat until then.  dont wanna go scaring people by challenging world views, we all know how that goes 

good luck

 

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, Deutsche22 said:

(By the way, many friends and even my wife have mocked self-help. Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life).

Sad but probably true. Like many other, including yourself, I too found that you cannot talk about this topic with most people. most people will think you are crazy and they will indeed mock you and self help. Personally I do not want to be around such people anymore. I tend to leave them behind and find new people who understand and have the same interest instead.

It can be hard with family and wife tho...those you cannot simply leave behind that easily. Those can keep you down and in the matrix for a long time

[Deutsche22]

11 minutes ago, 99th_monkey said:

I suggest finding out who you are and keep it under your hat until then.  dont wanna go scaring people by challenging world views, we all know how that goes 

good luck

 

Thank you very much! I guess it's like Leo said, "I have given you a map to the Holy Grail..." We must just do it on our own. Ignore everyone else (including the "you/I") Those around me have a difficult enough time grappling with the concept of self-help. If you say "self-actualization" they don't even know what you are talking about.

[Deutsche22]

11 minutes ago, Rasmus said:

Sad but probably true. Like many other, including yourself, I too found that you cannot talk about this topic with most people. most people will think you are crazy and they will indeed mock you and self help. Personally I do not want to be around such people anymore. I tend to leave them behind and find new people who understand and have the same interest instead.

It can be hard with family and wife tho...those you cannot simply leave behind that easily. Those can keep you down and in the matrix for a long time

Thank you very much also! The writing is on the wall. They will be left behind (figuratively for my daughter though, I would never leave her behind, would do anything for her)...

[Galyna]

@Deutsche22

Hello there

I think the right approach to avoid suffering and loneliness is to understand human nature. You do not need to turn people down just because they do not share your view points. What you can do instead is to put yourself in their shoos, trying to see the reason that is hidden behind it. Otherwise we will be doomed for solitude. It is possible to live among various people and be happy. World is beautiful because of its variety. 

 

[nbolt]

Same experience here. My girlfriend called Leo a "snake oil salesman" hahah.

[Leo Gura]

@Neill Bolton You can tell her that Leo called her a succubus.

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, Deutsche22 said:

I am a huge supporter and follower of Leo.

 

When I share the topic of enlightenment (or I should say, attempt to share it, due to the extremely radical and nearly incomprehensible nature of this topic) with others, they think I am insane.

 

Please share your thoughts and comments because this must be not only common but normal. My wife and close friends think I am crazy. Only one person I have shared this with is openminded enough to discuss it.

 

(By the way, many friends and even my wife have mocked self-help. Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life).

 

 

People who judge others for being crazy, are afraid of seeming crazy themselves. Just remember that your friend's and family's insecurity, had nothing to do with reality but an emotional response on their part. Be brave to make your life better.

Insecure people judge others for deviating from the norm... which scares more people into conformity who then judge others from deviating from the norm... which scares more people into conformity... and so on and so on.

It's a vicious cycle. Don't let yourself get hemmed into it. Just trust your emotions and critically thinking mind to make the right decision about what's right for you. Don't drink any Koolaid, and you should be fine.

[WelcometoReality]

@Deutsche22 I have told my wife and she is supportive even though she doesn't understand what it is really.

I've also told a close friend about it and he got interested but I think it scared him. Not many people like to hear that there world view is an illusion.

Remember that samsara is a part of the wholeness. Can we love them even though they don't share our world view? Love is unconditional. ☺

[Ayla]

"Sounds to good to be true" is what people think when you appear to them as (positively) "different". 

The only way you can safely share this, is through example. They will see the results.. "I personally" (lol that sounds funny) have been through a phase where I couldn't talk about anything else anymore. All outer things had lost their importance. It is going to happen to you too if you keep going in that direction. People will naturally drop from your experience because they won't be able to listen to you any longer. Keep quiet as much as you can. Grace will bring new people that can listen and share. 

 

 

[Neo]

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Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life

I don't agree with that statement. There's many things which you asre not afraid to share but you know it's the wrong audience. My partners eyes glaze over when I go on about quantum tunnelling, and when I mention that the galaxy is colliding with Andromeda, she just tells me she finds it upsetting.

You don't necessarily cut people off though because they don't share your passion. Life is always a bit compartmentalised. I mean there's evena small section of my hard drive I wouldn't share with the local vicar!!!

 

[Endless Skies]

I showed my older sister an Actualized.org video once. Her response was "How can you watch this Leo guy? He's like Mr. Clean on crack." 

In moments like that, I try to remember the quote from Leo. "I am completely independent of the good or bad opinions of others!" I want to reach the absolute pinnacle highest form of my true self in this lifetime and no one including my lower self is going to stop that!  

[FindingPeace]

12 hours ago, Deutsche22 said:

When I share the topic of enlightenment (or I should say, attempt to share it, due to the extremely radical and nearly incomprehensible nature of this topic) with others, they think I am insane.

Please share your thoughts and comments because this must be not only common but normal. My wife and close friends think I am crazy. Only one person I have shared this with is openminded enough to discuss it.

(By the way, many friends and even my wife have mocked self-help. Maybe these aren't the right people for me to have in my life).

This theme seems to come up over and over on this forum. I can even relate to it myself. There certainly seems to be a rift or detachment that grows between the self-developing person and the nonself-developers.

Perhaps Leo could address this in an upcoming video. Seems like a pertinent point.

But this theme is not confined to personal-development. It's an inherent side-effect of any kind of 'deviation from the norm'. People that go off on dedicated and passionate paths that are quite different to what others can associate with or relate to will often find themselves becomming less interested in the 'normal' people and more interested in others who are doing something similar.

Does this mean that we cannot accept people in our lives that don't 'fit in' with our personal development? Do we leave them behind? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think. It becomes harder to relate to one another when others are stuck in low-awareness and dysfunctional beliefs and habits, but as long as we don't allow them to hold us back and as long as we remain detatched from their narrow world veiw, we can continue our journeys. Sometimes we may have to let go of aspects and people from our lives in order to move on. Not everyone is conducive to our growing lives.

I guess the most important thing is that we don't judge them for their perspectives. Maybe they don't get it, or laugh at it dismissively, so we keep it to ourselves and those who we can talk about it to.

[Galyna]

 

Thank you for your explicit explanation. I absolutely agree with you. But I still deem it necessary to add that there is always room for love and compassion, with regards of matters and opinions.

 

We are all surrounded by children, we still love them no matter what, even we they can not understand and grasp maturity.  There is no way I say that we have to be superior to people who is not on the path to self-development.  But let’s be honest, real maturity, that is different from adolescence, starts from acceptance of your environment. 

 

Edited March 14, 2016 by Galyna

[Galyna]

@FindingPeace 

I forgot to add you in my comment  

[99th_monkey]

1 hour ago, FindingPeace said:

Sometimes we may have to let go of aspects and people from our lives in order to move on. Not everyone is conducive to our growing lives.

 

this is important because certain people can be a trigger or down right keep you alseep without their even being aware of it. 

This whole "process" is about "you" and you have to be as selfish as humanly possible. even though its extremely taboo to be that way, but living for others isnt going to wake you up. And others that depend on you to live for them will fall away if you do this work seriously... 

there is a part of the "process" when that stops and you transcend, but if those people are still sticking around by then , you'd have to find out for yourself.

[werlight]

@Deutsche22 @Leo Gura @Emerald Wilkins @99th_monkey @Galyna

Everyone is at a diferent stage of development. What seems normal for someone can sound crazy for someone else. I think its important to undertand this and be sensitive to other people situation.

No need to talk about this subject with people that are not interested (ready) to hear it.

My strategy has been to carefully introduce the subject in one on one conversations once in a while. If people seem interested, I continue if they are not interested I just change the subject.

Its important to understand that eventhough we all follow diferent paths, IN THE END, WE ALL GET TO THE SAME PLACE.. So there is no need to rush things.

In time, everyone will realize their true nature..

[cetus]

 

I think you could relate to the words of this song!  "People think I'm crazy--Just watching the wheels go round and round"

[werlight]

On March 14, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Leo Gura said:

@Neill Bolton You can tell her that Leo called her a succubus.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2016 by werlight