Psychedelic effects when holding breath after full inhale

[AlwaysBeNice]

What happens to you when you hold your breath after a deep full/semi-full inhalation?

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When I hold my breath after a full, or almost full inhalation and observe the effects it has on my body-mind, and go along with that feeling, things get psychedelic fast:

inner high pitched noise increasing, feeling like everything is dissolving in the vibrating being, feeling like I am about to blow up or die, and sometimes visuals, like the stage before a breakthrough on 5-MeO (which I have had a few off, and it's very similar, though I have never broken through on either completely, nor with this method.. I still get spooked)

I also experience feeling fuzzy and a nice calm sometimes after, feeling more awake. It can also be disorienting..

- I find you can also chose to stay with your body more on this method, and observe your body-mind system, if you don't go along with the feeling of dissolution, and you can go deeper into your body, feel the energetic knots, which may also just be helpful.

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So here's some info on what I think happens..

All your insecurities, energetic suppression, negative conditioning and trauma's are stored in the muscles (this can be observed if you meditate, do bio-energetic exercises, or it's seen pressure point therapy sessions like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyvhPpk04s)

 After a full inhalation, you put internal pressure on the muscles along the spine, on the heart, in the head.

And whereas these muscles are normally used to release back again, now they are staying expanded through force, which I think shocks the mind, and paired with having the intention to dissolve, you can a strong energetic opening to Self.

I also found that if you resort to a negative state during such a rush, by thinking fearful thoughts and contracting into that idea, it can mess up the energetic flow a little bit and cause a (short) headache for example. Which is typical for everything in life, if you move into a more closed state, things get less harmonious (both inner and outer).

So maybe there are risks (there are always risks to everything) but afaik, there should be no real risks to holding your breath for 2-10 seconds (albeit this is different: they did not find brain damage on a study on divers who regularly hold their breath for minutes)

- So how it works:

Sit down in a relaxed state, when you feel ready, take a deep big breath (see how much pressure you want to put on it, maybe don't go too hard (at first)), then relax, do nothing, and try to let go in the feeling of intensity.

Also I like to use the app 'Meditation Breath - Pranayama', to do this as a guided meditation and use '9 seconds in, 6 seconds hold, 9 seconds out, 0 seconds hold', edit: with semi-full breathes.

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Very interested in hearing your results.

Edited June 11, 2018 by AlwaysBeNice

[Guest Quanty]

You hold it, you lose it  and the illusion kicks in. 

 

[pluto]

Have you tried The Wim Hof method? I noticed some psychedelic-like effects doing that although its basically backwards to this. You oxygenate the body then hold breath for few to several minutes without any air in the lungs. Its quite fun and also great to use before meditation to get you in a more deep state quicker.

[AlwaysBeNice]

I have tried holding my breath after exhaling as well one time and being still, nothing particularly flashy but it does keep you present in some way, I like these techniques atm, deep breathing makes the body feel good/energized as well.

I found that you can also successively hold big breaths and maybe not get the effects if you don't go along with any alterations of consciousness deliberately, though that gets harder the deeper and more expanded of a breath you take I think, also it might help to focus on your heart area to get in touch with the feeling nature.

These breath exercises are also a good way to get in touch with the heart feeling in general as you can feel it better, and feeling the heart is a technique promoted by Ramana (on the right side of the chest).

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Others reporting the same and Wim Hoff uses the same technique for his 'DMT breath' it seems

 https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74447

Edited June 12, 2018 by AlwaysBeNice

[AlwaysBeNice]

I saw this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity mentioned here https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/20677-breathing-head-rush/?page=2, idk, also it may have some similarities to the choking game? Which can cause strokes or death, all in all I'm wary about it 

Edited June 15, 2018 by AlwaysBeNice

[InfinitePotential]

I've been planning on trying this soon, specifically "Kriya Supreme Fire" in one of the new books on the book list. Actually requires holding the breath on inhale for 90-120 seconds while focusing on one of like 3 different spots (crown, heart, navel) and performing 3 different bandhas.

Supposed to give you massive kundalini gains. Can't find anything about it online but it sounds pretty sick, and I seem to get really present during even a brief breath hold.

 

Oh also a bit unrelated, but the "complete yogi breath" (from The Science of Breath) is highly recommended.

[AlwaysBeNice]

Ye btw it's a basic pranayama exercise, I guess it should generally still be safe.

Also, I noticed that becoming aware of the samskara's triggers the 'dissociation effect',

Probably related to a specific trauma of mine related to my birth (which was a long winded process in which I almost died, was purple, and got slapped and stuff), so that if the body-mind comes in contact with the tensions it felt at the time, which was an overload of stress, it tries to dissociate again by trying to pass out or go out of body or something.