Politics discussed

[PT89]

I've probably flip flopped my opinion in politics about 100X over the past few years since coming to actualized.org and enjoy learning more/seeing modern issues be debated.  Would like to hear other people's opinions on certain things since we're all open minded people and can accept opposing views

Capitalism- Yes it's the best we've come up with and has led to prosperity - however, the more i ponder it the  more i think a highly capitalist system leads to inherent selfishness, and a need to be better than others, and yields capitalist "winners" like donald trump.  We know for a fact that psychological disorders are skyrocketing, I think in Australia 1/5 people has either an anxiety or depressive disorder.  Jordan Peterson's answer for this is to just focus on the individual, but I think this is much more of a systemic issue, a consequence of a system built on winners and losers.  Obviously ideally they'd teach something like self-actualization early on in schools, they'd teach empathy,  but these aren't valued in our system to a high degree. Wealth and "power" are what is prioritized in our system.

Identity Politics - Very much dislike them, have only seen toxicity result and create hate between genders, races etc, but this just could have been from my limited experience.  Very much in JP's camp with this.  

Free speech - very against the violence ive seen exhibited by mainly the radical left when speaking out against certain groups.  I've felt very policed in my speech because of consequences I think generated by identity politics.  If I were to speak out, for example, against capitalism (not saying i'm against capitalism), i think it would not be right for me to be attacked, the same way some of these other controversial speakers (milo) get berated for having different beliefs.

Would like to hear some other opinions on these topics, or other political issues. Hopefully all civil conversations that we can learn from.

 

 

[Leo Gura]

These kinds of threads become very toxic very fast on this forum.

Sorry

All politics is self-agenda in action. Regardless of whatever your positions are. So there cannot really be any truthful discussion of politics, because the goal of politics is to rig the game to meet your ego's needs.

Even if you think your politics is going to save the whole world << that's your ego meeting its perceived needs. It's survival through and through. Which is why political discussion quickly devolves into shit-slinging contests.

You have to be very careful when mixing politics and personal development.