I can't stand the syntax error of reality.

[MarkusSweden]

From one perspective this whole spiritual thing we do is such a nonsense, so utterly stupid. Self enquiry? Lol. To keep analysing oneself is one sure way to come across emotional pain. Simply living. Just simply live an ordinary life is all you should ask for. 

On the other hand, this spiritual thing is really the pinnacle of everything. It really put perspective to everything else. The whole game of life, all the struggles, all the sufferings of people. All desire for carrier, material stuff, a great partner, politics, all societies and all civilisations seem so stupid and meaningless. So utterly dumb and crazy. This whole ego-game is laughable, but so is the spiritual game as well. 

Humans are like those sphinx's in Egypt, with a human head(metaphor for consciousness, no self) and a body of a lion(metaphor for ego, desire, separate self) 

Like a syntax error, that's what we are. 

Sometimes I feel life(human life) is nothing but a joke. 

Evolution can't be proud. 

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[Prabhaker]

48 minutes ago, MarkusSweden said:

Just simply live an ordinary life is all you should ask for. 

This is really extraordinary in a way, because nobody wants it. To be ordinary is the most extraordinary thing in the world. 

[MarkusSweden]

4 minutes ago, Outer said:

Can you change your avatar? It's low quality, you can see the pixel blur. Use something that's sharper.

Ok, I'll change it if I decide to continue to hang around here. People are great here(even you  ). 

So much insights, but you got to cut yourself free from all of that at some point. And I think I start to reach that point.  

You reach a point when you have heard it all I guess. 

It should be a sub forum just for friendly chat I think. I don't think it's popular to just socialise, it should be free from that, but a sub forum for random everyday things would be great. 

The friendships you gain with few of the members are the only valuable thing after you've heard it all(All spiritual ideas and models that is) I think 

[MarkusSweden]

4 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

This is really extraordinary in a way, because nobody wants it. To be ordinary is the most extraordinary thing in the world. 

Agree 100%

That's why the word is extraordinary aka extra ordinary

[Colin]

Couldn't resist 
 

 

[Faceless]

Self reflection and real self inquiry makes it very interesting. If one feels they are bored, not getting anaywhere then they are not learning about themselves. 

We have to learn about ourselves first to understand anything of “reality” 

Ignore the idea of Spirituality “disregard the pursuit of enlightenment, and all the traditional nonsense that has been handed down through time. 

We must understand ourselves without any idea past down from the past. Disregard all assumptions. 

Learn about what we live with on a daily basis. What we utilize more than any other mechanism which is thought/self. 

Start with fear. Can you see every single movement of fear as it arises???

To do this is a very tremendous thing. 

But first learn how to identify when there is a movement of fear. To do that you have to understand fear is born, how grows, and how it moves and hides itself in pleasure.

Explore the nature and of FEAR. 

Truth can not be sought after. It’s only in the understanding of oneself does one see and live as truth.

[Faceless]

The real non-thing is much more significant than any idea one has accumulated from tradition/culture.

All these ideas of enlightenment/spiritualality are but dead, imagined, romantic, and superficial concepts that fall way short of actual freedom from the conditioned consciousness. 

Stop seeking an idea “enlightenment, spirituality, reality”...And understand the fact “what is actually happening in yourself” fear, psychological time, sorrow, suffering, and the rest of the tormented mind. 

Otherwise you remain so. 

[Faceless]

Is fear nonsense?? 

If so why do we evade?? 

Are we evading our deep rooted fear and creating a belief. In doing this are we further inslaving ourselves into illusion and deception???

Edited May 23, 2018 by Faceless

[MarkusSweden]

9 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Me too.

But the good news is that you are not a human. Maybe that's why it feels like a joke.

You are eternal infinite awareness. Everything else is just noise, distraction, or whatever you can call it, psychology is noise too.

Good point! I guess you hit the nail..

[Faceless]

If one is caught in belief then one is far from infinite awareness...this implies one is conforming to an idea. And there will always be contradiction and conflict in doing so. 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Faceless

[Faceless]

3 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

How can someone be far away from infinite awareness when he/she/it already is it.

But oh well..

Are you actually free from the conditioned consciousness??

If not you are still that.

There needs to be an awarness of the conditioned mind before there can anything beyond that. 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Faceless

[Faceless]

3 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Maybe I am? 

I am aware of all that.

Ok

[tsuki]

Spirituality is a human game like any other.

You can have a perfectly meaningful life as a grocery store clerk, or a lawyer. It is our curious assumption that society is broken that leads us into spititual life because it is somehow pure.

Spirituality is pure because it is empty. It has no substance to be corrupted. You live by not-living. You sit and call it meditation.

Meditation is just a name that is being marketed as a practice. So is the whole of spirituality. If you cannot see through it, you may use it as a means to strengthen the sense of superiority that had led you to it in the first place.

Emptiness of spirituality has advantages, like any other lifestyle. You can stand beside society and see through it. There is no value in that as long as you do not give your insights back to it. You are a part of it by parting from it. You are a singularity. A society within itself.

You cannot comment constructively unless you stop being ironic. Inrony is insencire. It has no redeeming quality that gives back to society. This is how alienation is born and perpetuated.

In order to see through others, you first need to see through yourelf.

[MarkusSweden]

11 minutes ago, tsuki said:

 

You cannot comment constructively unless you stop being ironic. Inrony is insencire. It has no redeeming quality that gives back to society. This is how alienation is born and perpetuated.

 

Agree 100%

Even the whole game of humor almost disappear totally at higher consciousness. The profound love and beauty overthrown every cynical perspective. And all humor need the cynical to some degree. And specially sarcasm and irony that is super cynical. No one benefits, least them who use it. 

[tsuki]

Cynicism in the modern sense is a self-referential expression of the absurd. You point out the absurd in others and by doing so you notice the absurdity in yourself.

Absurd is rejected by the modern rationalists. This is why cynicism is usually bitter, or perceived by bitter by others.

The absurd is a necessary occurrence in the rational world so that humans can keep being human. The absurd has to be cherished alongside rationalism. This is the path that changes irony into sincirety in cynicism.

No definition of humans will ever be complete. Even the definition that states that humans are undefinable.