How do you quit masturbation once and for all ?

[Ether]

@Pernani You just choose to not do it. There is no special technique.

[egoeimai]

On 5/11/2018 at 0:33 AM, Solace said:

You can't, you ego still controls you like a puppet, letting you have a few weeks or months off just to remind you that you need to face the deeper emotions in your heart first

My case with food add.

Nicely put

Whats your addiction BTW ? 

 

 

On 5/11/2018 at 0:33 AM, Solace said:

 

[Solace]

I was addicted to chocolate a few months ago, as well as Masterbation, and searching the internet for short moments of happiness. I have overcome them now through centring on the heart, as the heart is the source of all thoughts, and when you control your thoughts, you control your addictions

[Solace]

I was addicted to chocolate a few months ago, as well as Masterbation, and searching the internet for short moments of happiness. I have overcome them now through centering on the heart, as the heart is the source of all thoughts, and when you control your thoughts, you control your addictions I am working on becoming more honest and direct with people, as my defense mechanism when I was younger was to be aloof so i received the attention from my parents that I needed.

Edited May 19, 2018 by Solace

[Solace]

(Thank you Keyboard)

Edited May 18, 2018 by Solace

[Pernani]

On 5/18/2018 at 0:52 PM, martins name said:

@Pernani Have you tried lsd or any other psycadelic? it will make you see porn and masturbation in a new perspektive. 100ug lsd helped me. Its only a helping hand tho its not a magic pill. What helped me the most is really accepting that i will never fap again, not that i will let go of it for a while but forever. You will have to become a new person in a way. Vision is key!

havent even tried weed lol, I should give it a try in the future

23 hours ago, Ether said:

@Pernani You just choose to not do it. There is no special technique.

did that work for you ?

22 hours ago, Solace said:

I was addicted to chocolate a few months ago, as well as Masterbation, and searching the internet for short moments of happiness. I have overcome them now through centering on the heart, as the heart is the source of all thoughts, and when you control your thoughts, you control your addictions I am working on becoming more honest and direct with people, as my defense mechanism when I was younger was to be aloof so i received the attention from my parents that I needed.

can you be more specific ? what do you mean by centering the heart and is it the same as what leo speaks of "centering the mind" ?

[Torkys]

1. Excite yourself sexually as much as possible (don't masturbate) 
2. Allow the resistance you experience without jerking off (this may be challanging but this is why it works) 
3. Repeat
4. Profit

[Ether]

16 minutes ago, Torkys said:

1. Excite yourself sexually as much as possible (don't masturbate) 
2. Allow the resistance you experience without jerking off (this may be challanging but this is why it works) 
3. Repeat
4. Profit

You dont even got to do that, it will arise naturally

@Pernani Yes, try and see 

[Pernani]

On 19/05/2018 at 9:00 PM, Torkys said:

1. Excite yourself sexually as much as possible (don't masturbate) 
2. Allow the resistance you experience without jerking off (this may be challanging but this is why it works) 
3. Repeat
4. Profit

Deliberate practice, I like the idea.

should I watch some hot stuff or just excite myself ? (Fantasize or something)

Edited May 20, 2018 by Pernani

[Torkys]

@Pernani If you are not addicted to watching hot stuff or you think that beating your masturbation addiction is more important than beating your addiction to viewing material, feel free to not use your fantasy. 

[Ryusaki]

what could help:

just try to make notes and write down:

+ WHY you want to quit

+ what kind of person you could be without fapping

+ what benefits it could have in your life

+ how your future I could thank you for doing it (and say thank you for each day you mastered it)

 

 

you can add more positive things. it's just important that you create a good vision and goal for it, that would make your future I happy about it.

and then the other way around:

 

- What would happen if you don't stop

- how would you be in 1 year, if you cant stop, how in 5 years, or 10 years...

- how you relationships could be

- how would your view for woman change/develope/...

...add more if you want

 

whach this list everytime you get an urge. 

[Space]

On 10/05/2018 at 0:13 AM, Pernani said:

Can it even be done without being a casanova ? Has someone done it before in this forum ? And I'm not even talking about porn, that's easier to quit, I'm talking about getting rid of the urge to masturbate or at least gain the upper hand on it, I know that simply being mindful can do the trick but that takes a lot more mindfulness than the average person has or at least the average meditator.

I've done a nofap challenge before, I actually just relapsed after almost three months of abstaining, I thought it would do the trick and that I could quit it forever if I manage to keep my hands off my pants for that long, because after all that's how you form habits or eliminate habits, but in reality it's way far from being the case.

any resources, any experiences would be very much appreciated!

Shouldn't the fact that you and so many other guys find it so difficult to completely quit tell you something? It tells you that having a sex drive and wanting to relieve that urge is a natural part of being human. Why are you trying to resist it? It's crazy. Now, i'm not saying that masturbating to porn every single day is what you should be doing. In fact i'd definitely not recommend that, and you should try to break that habit as soon as possible. But masturbation by itself is fine. And like anything in the world, just don't over do it. 

But if you really want to stop all together, don't call it a nofap challenge. The biggest mistake people make is trying to just go for as long as possible and then bragging about their 'streak'. This won't work for the majority of people. It's just the wrong mentality. The best approach, in my opinion, is a slow gradual decrease. Try going a day here or a day there without masturbating. Don't just go cold turkey. And most importantly, just commit to gradually cutting down for the rest of your life until it gets the point where it healthy. Scrap the silly streak. Make a life long commitment to improvement.

Don't say to yourself, "I'm just gonna go without PMO for as long as I possibly can in the hope that eventually i'll no longer want to do it". This won't work. In fact, you're making it harder for yourself by taking this approach, which is what most guys do. As I said, it's better to decrease it gradually and slowly.

[Shroomdoctor]

28 minutes ago, Space said:

Shouldn't the fact that you and so many other guys find it so difficult to completely quit tell you something? It tells you that having a sex drive and wanting to relieve that urge is a natural part of being human. Why are you trying to resist it? It's crazy. Now, i'm not saying that masturbating to porn every single day is what you should be doing. In fact i'd definitely not recommend that, and you should try to break that habit as soon as possible. But masturbation by itself is fine. And like anything in the world, just don't over do it. 

 

Something I just realized.

[Max_V]

@Space Maybe so, but for me the reason behind masturbating most of the time is because I feel lonely and unconnected and want to feel some sort of connection.

I do it because there is a deep down belief that no one will ever love me and accept me for who I am.

[Ether]

12 minutes ago, Max_V said:

@Space Maybe so, but for me the reason behind masturbating most of the time is because I feel lonely and unconnected and want to feel some sort of connection.

I do it because there is a deep down belief that no one will ever love me and accept me for who I am.

They might not but you dont know that. There is 7 billion people, you are bound to find one who does.

But as long as you accept who you are, thats all that matters.

[Guest Quanty]

Why quit? 

Learn to IN-jaculate & discover true power. 

[Pernani]

On 23/05/2018 at 3:47 PM, Ryusaki said:

what could help:

just try to make notes and write down:

+ WHY you want to quit

+ what kind of person you could be without fapping

+ what benefits it could have in your life

+ how your future I could thank you for doing it (and say thank you for each day you mastered it)

 

 

you can add more positive things. it's just important that you create a good vision and goal for it, that would make your future I happy about it.

and then the other way around:

 

- What would happen if you don't stop

- how would you be in 1 year, if you cant stop, how in 5 years, or 10 years...

- how you relationships could be

- how would your view for woman change/develope/...

...add more if you want

 

whach this list everytime you get an urge. 

I've done a little bit of this when I first started and it sure helped, I will try to keep journaling more on a consistent basis, thanks for the reminder!

 

On 23/05/2018 at 5:49 PM, Space said:

Shouldn't the fact that you and so many other guys find it so difficult to completely quit tell you something? It tells you that having a sex drive and wanting to relieve that urge is a natural part of being human. Why are you trying to resist it? It's crazy. Now, i'm not saying that masturbating to porn every single day is what you should be doing. In fact i'd definitely not recommend that, and you should try to break that habit as soon as possible. But masturbation by itself is fine. And like anything in the world, just don't over do it. 

But if you really want to stop all together, don't call it a nofap challenge. The biggest mistake people make is trying to just go for as long as possible and then bragging about their 'streak'. This won't work for the majority of people. It's just the wrong mentality. The best approach, in my opinion, is a slow gradual decrease. Try going a day here or a day there without masturbating. Don't just go cold turkey. And most importantly, just commit to gradually cutting down for the rest of your life until it gets the point where it healthy. Scrap the silly streak. Make a life long commitment to improvement.

Don't say to yourself, "I'm just gonna go without PMO for as long as I possibly can in the hope that eventually i'll no longer want to do it". This won't work. In fact, you're making it harder for yourself by taking this approach, which is what most guys do. As I said, it's better to decrease it gradually and slowly.

The reason I wanna stop because I did manage to stop for a little while and I have noticed the difference, huge one, that's why I wanted to cut it forever, and if you masturbate you're bound to stay addicted to porn as well and thats a whole other can of worms, I believe there is something about keeping your juices inside that's really powerful, but then again I ain't planning to go celibate or full on monk style, can't do that shit ?.

there is a lot of truth to the flaws of the "challenge" aspect to nofap, that's what I found out from my experience, but then again there is a saying "once you pop, you can't stop", it's way harder to go gradual than to go cold turkey

[egoeimai]

On 5/23/2018 at 9:04 PM, Max_V said:

@Space Maybe so, but for me the reason behind masturbating most of the time is because I feel lonely and unconnected and want to feel some sort of connection.

I do it because there is a deep down belief that no one will ever love me and accept me for who I am.

thats why people have sex,same for masturbation.

They wanna feel connected,loved,appreciated,they wanna get the attention and love that they deserve. Totally normal.

But that's not the only way,just being present and aware,accepting everything,does the trick as well. ?