Reality is NOW

[Principium Nexus]

You or I are it, we are reality. This thing you are experience now, that is us, my thoughts in your head. So who are you?

If it's not you, then who are we?

Are we the I? As in one complete being, then everyone is I. The path of the Buddha is to vow the enlightenment of all and guide them to more compassion and love. So where do we begin?

Edited May 5, 2018 by Principium Nexus

[How to be wise]

@Principium Nexus Reality doesn’t exist. You don’t exist. End of story.

[Principium Nexus]

@How to be wise If it does not exist then what is it that I'm experiencing now?

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[How to be wise]

@Principium Nexus Your thoughts about reality. 

[Principium Nexus]

@How to be wise Then there is still something to be perceived, by someone, either it's you or me. Isn't this what we call reality?

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[How to be wise]

@Principium Nexus No. You think it’s real, but it’s not. Your thoughts don’t create reality, they just make you believe it’s real. 

[Principium Nexus]

@How to be wise I get the "think" in a symbolic representation of what is. So if any idea I have about reality is false, even the gathering of all my sensations to form the "now", then we are bound to be wanders in loose ground.

Edited May 5, 2018 by Principium Nexus

[Faceless]

Has anyone seen the word reality as meaning “res”

”things” 

Therfore of thought.

i think using reality in in that way will lead to a better consensus in the discussion or what is as distinct from what is thought about or reflected upon. 

 

[Nahm]

Using reality words to decribe reality? 

Seems loopy. 

[Principium Nexus]

I only wanted to point out that this path of contemplation and research will go full circle. There are many people out there like me who fall for the thinking trap, and mistake being with concious thought.

Many are on their way to enlightenment and eventually one will come to conclusion there is no more purpose of contempating.

Everything is as full as it can be.

Edited May 5, 2018 by Principium Nexus

[Faceless]

10 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Using reality words to decribe reality? 

Seems loopy. 

You can’t describe reality. That’s the point. 

Seems people use reality as in the sense of objective reality. Which is not reality. It’s only thinking about what that “reality or truth” might be. 

So when one uses “res” it’s talking about reality as in perception through consciousness. The conditioned mind. Or the content of ones conciousness. As in duality, fragmentation, and psychological time and so on. 

Its just a different way of explaining in order to get perhaps a clearer understanding with one anohter. 

You have never considered thinking about it this way? 

Edited May 5, 2018 by Faceless

[Faceless]

12 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

 

But..

You can also perceive/experience reality without thoughts. So how can reality just be a thought?

??

This is why it’s very important to understand how experience comes about. 

What is experience? 

How does experience come about? 

Do ‘you’ experience?

These are important to go into. As far as ending the movement of time. Or seeing what is. 

Check it out

Edited May 5, 2018 by Faceless

[Nahm]

@Faceless You’re reiterating what I said.  (“Loopy”....humor attempt...nonduality)

[Principium Nexus]

I like this experience. Even if its just a thought

[Faceless]

4 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Faceless You’re reiterating what I said. 

I but Im using reality in the sense that what thought touches on, thinks about, reflects about. I think that is what “res” came from right? 

Things are only of thought “thinks” 

Anything that thought is involved with basically. 

Edited May 5, 2018 by Faceless

[Principium Nexus]

Isn't the whole purpose of thought to keep i-dentity? It's the only thing withholding us from not caring about this identified body anymore.

In that sense we are prisoners by our own thoughts, true liberation would be the end of thought?

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[Faceless]

@Principium Nexus check into those questions I presented. It’s interesting. Pretty cool ?

[Faceless]

So we might want to use truth as independent of throught. As a perception without “res” “things” 

If conciousness that is conditioned ceases to manifest itself the content of ones consciousness would empty and therfore “things” cease to exist. 

Thats one way of looking at it. 

So we can walk together. It seems this way might be easier to talk about this with in general with people who perhaps are not familiar with this stuff. 

Edited May 5, 2018 by Faceless

[Principium Nexus]

@Faceless I understand what the Buddhist monks try to achieve now. They literally mean the end of all suffering by dissolving their thought not fearing "death", since that's just a thought too.

[moon777light]

21 minutes ago, Faceless said:

??

This is why it’s very important to understand how experience comes about. 

What is experience? 

How does experience come about? 

Do ‘you’ experience?

These are important to go into. As far as ending the movement of time. Or seeing what is. 

Check it out

what do you define as experience?  

@Faceless

Edited May 5, 2018 by moon777light