"THE ULTIMATE MODEL OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE"

[John Iverson]

If the only true is direct experience, so what if I experience how abusive man for their masculinity and because of being in direct experience of that I have now a knowledge in that experience that now women fighting for their equality, having that it express what other is fighting for in that aspect I see how they use experience to add more delusion and more fighting against each other.. against what is being right.. "RIGHTS".. can you see? How can you explain that in a manner that it is also part of knowledge graph? Is it? Or is there another explanation for that? If there is please say it. Being in direct to experience is something that is happening and you will not find it in the knowledge of the mind.. it is something that it happens and what ever experienced is true so their arguments is also true? Because it is experienced?? I don't know..

Edited April 25, 2018 by John Iverson

[Erlend K]

Epistomology is a profoundly complicated and confusing topic. My advice is to avoid getting too attached to any particular definition of Truth like your "The only true is direct experience", and accept that our concept of Truth has more layers and subtleties as any such simplistic definition is able to capture.

You should perhaps try to reformulate this in more precise and concise language. I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you are trying to say.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Erlend K

[Faceless]

The ultimate model of human knowledge is always finite and static therfore not truth which is dynamic?

[Truth]

13 hours ago, John Iverson said:

If the only true is direct experience, so what if I experience how abusive man for their masculinity and because of being in direct experience of that I have now a knowledge in that experience that now women fighting for their equality, having that it express what other is fighting for in that aspect I see how they use experience to add more delusion and more fighting against each other.. against what is being right.. "RIGHTS".. can you see?

What? 

[Elisabeth]

23 hours ago, John Iverson said:

If the only true is direct experience, so what if I experience how abusive man for their masculinity ...

I don't know what you're trying to say, but

"I" is a concept (or so they say)

"man" is a concept

"abusive" is a concept - and a highly abstract and ill defined on to of it

It's just a story what you have written. Very far from direct experience.

[John Iverson]

40 minutes ago, Elisabeth said:

I don't know what you're trying to say, but

"I" is a concept (or so they say)

"man" is a concept

"abusive" is a concept - and a highly abstract and ill defined on to of it

It's just a story what you have written. Very far from direct experience.

If I'm your husband and I'm unfair to you like, if you have a passion I don't want you to participate that is nonsense, you have no "RIGHTS" I want you to be a housewife, go clean the dishes clean the floor make our baby safe.. or let's say that you are fighting for women's right,. What are your rights? Some of that is experienced right? Even my example.. you experience unequality.. if equality is the issue I don't know how to relate that knowledge into a graph.. having a rights is an argument between right and wrong, because the fact that something is wrong,.. there is right and wrong there, basically they are voicing out for something experiential, that is also why they protest... so how can we cut that out and we will say that it is part of knowledge graph.. is it?

[Erlend K]

Could you please translate your neologism "knowledge graph" into common English?

From what I can see you are just a bit confused about the distinction between right (as in the opposite of wrong), and a moral/social Right. Rights are not objective facts, but statements about what a person shouldn't be denied. Therefor two people can disagree about Rights without any of them being right or wrong in an objective sense. Right can be either subjective (claiming a right that's not widely recognized within a given culture) or intersubjective (widely recognized within a given culture), but never objective.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Erlend K
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