God is the dude in the sky! - Vaishnava Response to Advaita Vedanta

[Joseph Maynor]

This is one reason I am leery of mixing God with spirituality.   God just confuses everybody.  Reality doesn’t need God.  God is our projection on reality.  It’s Egoic.  We want reality to be how we want to think of it.  God is a big distraction. It’s something we made up.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Faceless]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is one reason I am leery of mixing God with spirituality.   God just confuses everybody.  Reality doesn’t need God.

I feel you there. And it’s an indication of subtle attachment still taking place. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Faceless

[abrakamowse]

2 hours ago, Faceless said:

I feel you there. And it’s an indication of subtle attachment still taking place. 

Isn't it the same subtle attachment to call it reality? What's the difference of calling it God? or reality? or the flying spaghetti?

In my opinion, we shouldn't be bothered by the way what is unspeakable is named or called. God, reality, awareness, all of them have subtle attachments in different ways. If you are attached to matter or science you will call it awareness or reality. If you are attached to the idea of atheism, you can call it the void, if you are religious, you can call it God. 

It's not different in my opinion. Just my 2  cents.

[Faceless]

19 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

Isn't it the same subtle attachment to call it reality? What's the difference of calling it God? or reality? or the flying spaghetti?

In my opinion, we shouldn't be bothered by the way what is unspeakable is named or called. God, reality, awareness, all of them have subtle attachments in different ways. If you are attached to matter or science you will call it awareness or reality. If you are attached to the idea of atheism, you can call it the void, if you are religious, you can call it God. 

It's not different in my opinion. Just my 2  cents.

Of course don’t be bothered by it either way. 

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[Faceless]

@abrakamowse

Fortunately it’s safe to say it’s no conception huh. ?

Edited April 6, 2018 by Faceless

[abrakamowse]

4 minutes ago, Faceless said:

@abrakamowse

Fortunately it’s safe to say it’s no conception huh. ?

Exactly! 

[Haumea]

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Isn't it the same subtle attachment to call it reality? What's the difference of calling it God? or reality? or the flying spaghetti?

Of course any concept which implies a Subject-Object relationship (and which of them don't?) is going to be dualistic.

There is only The Self describes it best I think, but any time you use language, forget it.

(You are That) is pretty good too.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Haumea

[Faceless]

7 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

Exactly! 

For me the closest one can get to the unknown is emptiness or headlessness. A perceiving without the perciever. When the center ceases. Or when the known ceases. 

[Faceless]

I hope my boy can do this when he’s older. It’s the ultimate joy. 

[abrakamowse]

By headlessness do you mean this? @Faceless

http://www.headless.org/

[Faceless]

1 minute ago, abrakamowse said:

By headlessness do you mean this? @Faceless

http://www.headless.org/

Seems very similar yes. 

No mind, immeasurable, or timelessness I 

[abrakamowse]

@Faceless  I thought that it was a method created by that guy , Richard Lang.

How did you find about it?

[Faceless]

This just started happening to me all of a sudden one day. 

I just felt as if my head or entity behind the eyes had left. The feeling of having no head. It was very strange beautiful though. And it has deepened more and more since. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Faceless

[abrakamowse]

2 minutes ago, Faceless said:

This just started happening to me all of a sudden one day. 

I just felt as if my head or entity behind the eyes had left. The feeling of having no head. It was very strange beautiful though. And it has deepened more and more since. 

Cool! I was always curious about that "method"... interesting.

[Faceless]

8 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

Cool! I was always curious about that "method"... interesting.

Not really a method. I didn’t ask for it. Wasn’t a movement of volition at all. I actually had no knowledge what so ever of any spiritual references at all. Actually some of the life long spiritual friends I have conversated with say that might have somthing to do with the fact that I never conformed or complied with education as a kid. I refused and refused to go. My home life was a mess which made that even easier. 

So my friends say the lack of conditioning may have helped in this centerlessness. It just started happening little over a year ago. I’m 34 now. This headlessness ever since seems to grow into longer intervals though. Its an unrecognizable experience or ‘non experiencing’ 

i never new anything about the mind until this happened. I’ve been learning and doing self inquiry as means to understand what had happened. Which seems to deepen this even more. 

It comes in an out on its own accord. Although seems to be fairly easy the more quiet the mind becomes. It’s hard to explain. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Faceless