Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Leo has to stop beating around the bush & giving us theory and actually begin taking real life actions. Society goes 100% against the enlightenment agenda. Society pressures us into becoming slaves which is distracting us from our true potential in life which is connection with mother nature and living in the present moment doing what one truly wants. No laws, just pure unfiltered reality where one has no agenda other than experiencing the present moment and to explore earth and go on journeys. Everything you're doing in your current life is a distraction from experiencing and living an enlightened lifestyle. This lifestyle cannot be implemented in our current society. You think getting your trophy girlfriend, your dream job or the newest shiny new car will fulfill you? You think having the best diet in the world and doing fancy yoga poses will change anything? Leo, you think getting millions of subscribers and becoming a famous person in society will fulfill you? You need more money for those fancy retreats? You once said you want to be die happy on your dead bed in your 70's without any regrets. What is that? Just a mental projection of a concept. Seeking happiness through self-improvement is not the answer. We have to take real life actions otherwise this entire forum is just a circlejerk, people playing with words and never actually solving anything. This may seem neurotic but someone has to ground all this knowledge into a stone so real life actions can be taken. Leo, begin your touring and start something real. Actualized.org can become an underground group of people taking REAL life actions towards demolishing the very thing that is keeping us all unconscious. Otherwise i see no point in following you anymore, any attempts at self-improvement at this point is futile. Improving one self to contribute to the very system that is destroying us? I think this entire thing will go full circle, we've improved ourselves so much that we will actually begin to self-destroy and in that process, we will experience true life. Edited March 21, 2018 by vanish typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2018 Christopher Mccandless had a promising future, he was good looking and had everything most people here probably wishes for. He donated all of his savings and burned his pocket money and self-destroyed himself. That's true enlightement. Tyler Durden is a fictional character but it represents the idea very clearly, he has everything the narrator wishes, good looks, he gets women easily yet he doesn't improve himself. He steals a guys car, lives in an abandoned house and does whatever the fuck he wants. While the beta side ( the narrator ) strive to better himself by getting more material possessions and goes to cancer survivor meetings to practice meditation. This forum will have to go full circle and become a self-destruction forum in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2018 You are oriented external. No cult or underground group needs to exist for you to meditate. While society and culture have their bad sides they do not destroy you, in western society you have your survival needs met and can concentrate on higher values easily. We just talk about the bad influence of society here because the good stuff is obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, MM1988 said: You are oriented external. No cult or underground group needs to exist for you to meditate. While society and culture have their bad sides they do not destroy you, in western society you have your survival needs met and can concentrate on higher values easily. We just talk about the bad influence of society here because the good stuff is obvious. There's no need to meditate at all after a certain point. I've been meditating for years now and i realized i'm wasting my time trying to improve myself. This thread is obviously not polished but i'm beginning to understand what i tried to express, we need to self-destroy ourselves after a certain point. I've mastered my diet, have a white collar job ( i'm a software engineer ) , fucked beautiful women , have eaten in fancy restaurants and have traveled to a few countries. I did a lot of self-work like dark retreats, psychedelics, contemplation and other stuff to try and master myself. I'm now 31 and i obviously know i haven't experienced everything, but this desire to always be striving to better myself has to turn into me destroying everything i've built. I'm going to quit my job, ditch my girlfriend and stop every self-improvement habits. Now i just need an elaborate plan on how to properly destroy myself, i think life is truly experienced in those moments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2018 @vanish Easy there grasshopper. Watch that ego kicking back into overdrive. You've only BEGUN this consciousness process. Don't turn into a Zen devil. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2018 You are right that action needs to be taken! At the same time it's impossible force actions and lifestyle without a deeper understanding of the nature. Meditation is not about growing yourself ❤️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2018 You know what? This forum actually is nothing but a circle jerk. Yes, the hedonic treadmill is a bitch and you won't get unconditional fulfillment unless you die but be careful not to project. There is blind chasing and there is conscious life purpose. Two completely different things. And yes, Leo does get ALOT of satisfaction from what he's doing with Actualized.org. "The really "spiritual" people would say: "Hey, but Leo, there is nothing to do, stop chasing" [...] Well, what I have to say to you is to go fuck yourself! Because [...] this is the stupidest idea I have ever heard" - Leo Gura, 2k17 Spirituality is any movement towards the Unnamable. Everything is spiritual. The only true way out Resistance is going into it because any way out of it is staying in it. The purest life possible is surrendering to the Absolute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) I think the key to the success of the movie Fight Club is it wrapped up deeper spiritual issues in the shallowness of fighting, which made it hard to ignore. This is the same reason the News always covers violent stories — they grab our attention! That movie, unintentionally or not, made use of that same marketing tactic. Violence captures our attention. Everything covered in the News is what captures our attention. You could use the News as a sounding-board as to what captures the low-consciousness mind. Edited March 22, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 6:11 AM, Leo Gura said: @vanish Easy there grasshopper. Watch that ego kicking back into overdrive. You've only BEGUN this consciousness process. Don't turn into a Zen devil. Buddy it's time to go full circle and start self-destroying yourself. Not everything has to be bliss. I know you're trying to help people with anxiety/ptsd/shitty lives overcome their problems by telling them there's nothing to worry about and trying to kill their conceptual little ''self' so they can go and live life without worry. Haha guys! life's just a dream! Then follow your teachings, i loved it when you posted that hitler meme as your weekly video. Go nuts, become scared, experienced psychedelics not to connect with god, but the devil. Are you afraid? He's part of this dream too I just dropped out of my job and told my boss that i jack off to horse porn and laughed like a maniac before leaving, he was scared shitless of the sudden change and he's the one calling me right now trying to get me back to come back to work. I'm strategically planning on what crazy thing i'm going to do next, maybe go to my parents house and start masturbating in front of them? Maybe even ejaculate in front of my mother and tell her she's no different than the coffee table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) The central irony of Fight Club is that Tyler Durden advocated not being one of the sheeple and carving out your own path, but in the end, the cult he created ended up worshiping him as a living messiah, performing automaton-like behaviors and military training with machinelike precision, and completely erasing individuality. "In Project Mayhem, we have no names"--remember? Why call out Leo? We don't need (En)Light(enment) Club. The lesson of Fight Club is that you don't need Fight Club. If you're gonna do this thing, you do it yourself, by yourself, for yourself. You don't post about it on the internet. "He who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god." Edited March 22, 2018 by Kisame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, vanish said: I just dropped out of my job and told my boss that i jack off to horse porn and laughed like a maniac before leaving, he was scared shitless of the sudden change and he's the one calling me right now trying to get me back to come back to work. I love it ? 2 hours ago, vanish said: Buddy it's time to go full circle and start self-destroying yourself. Who's going to destroy whom? ? Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all of the barriers within yourself that you have built against it - A Course in Miracles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 Even if agree with that death is futile and every form is bound to crumble, this is still madness. Fuck this, go kill yourself if you feel that's your path, however do not propagate this message to others Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 Yes, this is a fragmented piece of reality defending itself . So come at me, myself . And I don't give a fuck about your linguistics about enlightenment. Again, if you feel it's time for the EVENTUAL experiencing of another dimension, go ahead Us rest on earth will chill out and try to enjoy the beauties, and not pussy out in trying to improve this reality of consciousness. We will all die eventually anyway. Not saying suicide is wrong, but not either saying its right . Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 I'm not pussying out, quite the contrary, i'm facing death face-on. I never said i'd harm myself or others, just said i'll live life as it was a dream, i'm going to walk outside naked and do whatever the fuck i want. I literally don't care if i go to prison at this point, i'll just ask to be put in solitary and meditate there until i get out ( for public exposure ) . 2 hours ago, Simon Zackrisson said: Even if agree with that death is futile and every form is bound to crumble, this is still madness. Fuck this, go kill yourself if you feel that's your path, however do not propagate this message to others You have a very strong survival framework going on there, you sure you're okay on that bunny diet, remember you don't have free will :)! I just ate 4x cheeseburgers and masturbated 2x times. I'm not into videogames so i think i'll make paper planes and throw them out my window like i did when i was a kid. Oh and by the way, i showed my cock to my parents and they cried they thought i was going insane and when i said to my mom that she's no different than the coffee table and felt on knees and asked god to help me, i then just left with my small non-erect cock hanging out to avoid my dream-mom from felling more pain. I think i should make a blog for this, i wonder how many days ill last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 Atleast you are kinda funny Even if you gone crazy. Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 However yes, you are betraying your evolutionary line of species, and in being supposedly non-egoic, you are throwing all other versions of yourself that isnt enlightened yet into suffering . compassionate and wtf im not on a bunny diet fam Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 and no, we do not have free will, however in us having no free will, and currently acting and operating in understanding as if we would have such a thing, we have no other choice then to believe the illusion . but i like to battle you. it feeds my self defense mechanism for delusional suicidal degenerative forces on this planet Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Simon Zackrisson said: However yes, you are betraying your evolutionary line of species, and in being supposedly non-egoic, you are throwing all other versions of yourself that isnt enlightened yet into suffering . compassionate and wtf im not on a bunny diet fam If anything i'm making people more awake by taking radical actions. The same way more people are into politics now because of Mr. Trump. Because of his craziness now more people are studying the political framework. Next week i'll walk across the sidewalk of an important street in my city completely naked, i'll probably make it to the news and i'll probably be put in a mental ward. I'll be like bigfoot, everyone will be staring at me like i travelled back from an ancient era. I'm literally laughing out loud at this extreme liberation, i can literally do what i want, all for the sake of making more people aware that their little problems are futile, this is a complete let go. Edited March 23, 2018 by vanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2018 @vanish k bro have fun, much love Endless nuance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites