how do gurus figure out if youre doing it correct

[electroBeam]

Tennis coaches observe your posture, your form and where the ball goes to figure out if youre doing a technique correctly.

Maths teachers observe your working out to see if you understand a certain math technique or not.

But how do yogis figure out if you're meditating properly? There's nothing materialistic to see? Or do they use other dimensions to sense if you're doing something correctly?

[Crystalous]

They can see your spiritual development through your behaviour.For example, good questions, calmness, love, self control and tons of things yogis can understand and we can't.

[Nahm]

By observing their emotion. 

[Faceless]

They don’t. They measure everything according to there own personal responses to memory, knowledge, and experiences ‘thought’. They make a judgement according to there own conditioning. 

 

[deci belle]

It is spiritual.

Authentic enlightening beings are such that their innate non-psychological awareness is completely efflorescent in its functionality.

There is no "figuring out" involved. Deductive reasoning is a property of the psychological apparatus, therefore it is not employed in terms of that which is already known immediately.

Such knowledge is immediate. Buddhism calls this the opened Dharma-eye.

Of course, they are also adept at picking up subtle cues from those they are dispassionately and intimately dedicated to, in terms of the specific teaching venues they are attuned; not to mention by virtue of their loving responsibility, dedication, years of experience and an unconventionally penetrating skillful means which they are able to employ by the very potential that comprises any situation they find themselves responding to.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, electroBeam said:

how do yogis figure out if you're meditating properly?

Mostly they don't.

Which is why most of their students remains forever unenlightened.

It's a very crude approach. You give 1,000 people a technique, and it will work on some tiny percentage of them. The rest will be spinning in circles for years/decades, getting basically nowhere. Which is why you shouldn't blindly follow people, ideas, or techniques. You must evaluate for yourself whether it's working and make the proper corrections.

There is zero guarantees that a technique will work on you as an individual.

Be the CEO of your spiritual journey.

[Ayilton]

100% responsability for your results  ,  watch out for yourself  ! 

Thats the first success principle

[Shin]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly they don't.

Which is why most of their students remains forever unenlightened.

It's a very crude approach. You give 1,000 people a technique, and it will work on some tiny percentage of them. The rest will be spinning in circles for years/decades, getting basically nowhere. Which is why you shouldn't blindly follow people, ideas, or techniques. You must evaluate for yourself whether it's working and make the proper corrections.

There is zero guarantees that a technique will work on you as an individual.

Be the CEO of your spiritual journey.

This.

Unless you be open-minded and curious as fuck, the chance to see the truth seems very limited.

You can be stuck and become dogmatic so easily in this work, so much potential wasted because people cling to their spiritual schools instead of reading between the words of every one of them, finding what works for them, and always being ok with changing it if necessary.

Even if you happen to be that kind of person it's still not guaranteed and still may take a decade or more.

Open-mindedness, curiosity, faith, humility

The chance of it happening without cultivating those things is next to 0%.

 

Edited March 8, 2018 by Shin

[Sri Ramana Maharshi]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly they don't.

Which is why most of their students remains forever unenlightened.

It's a very crude approach. You give 1,000 people a technique, and it will work on some tiny percentage of them. The rest will be spinning in circles for years/decades, getting basically nowhere. Which is why you shouldn't blindly follow people, ideas, or techniques. You must evaluate for yourself whether it's working and make the proper corrections.

There is zero guarantees that a technique will work on you as an individual.

Be the CEO of your spiritual journey.

This is so true. You can't just ride across in the boat, asleep in the bow.

 

[Guest Quanty]

Co-rect literally means: With the rectum, in correlation with, etc.. So you put your attention on the breath while you push IT down using the rectum.

After this you can be sure it is done correctly

 

Namaste, Mfks

[electroBeam]

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly they don't.

Which is why most of their students remains forever unenlightened.

It's a very crude approach. You give 1,000 people a technique, and it will work on some tiny percentage of them. The rest will be spinning in circles for years/decades, getting basically nowhere.

Sounds like the educational system and western universities as well.

[Leo Gura]

@electroBeam Think of it this way, why would a guru care more about your enlightenment than you do?

It's sort of like being in a toxic relationship: You cannot expect your partner to have more respect for you than you have for yourself. However much you respect yourself is the most that your partner will be able to respect you. You are the limit.

Likewise, you cannot expect your teacher to care more about your liberation than you care about it yourself. You are the limit.

Because you are all there ever was! Ta-da!

If you are feeling any less than infinite, that's you limiting yourself with via your infinite power And the only one who will be able to sort it out is you!

[deci belle]

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why would a guru care more about your enlightenment than you do

Since you asked, the answer is, enlightenment isn't "yours". You will never experience enlightenment.

So what's to care about?

Not much, since this kind of authentic relationship doesn't exist on any significant level in this day and age.

We sure are assuming a lot here …who said the guru would tell?

The OP specifically asked "how do they know". It didn't assume gurus would go around changing the babies' diapers for them.

Gurus aren't baby-sitters.

Let's not get on a "guru" feeding frenzy based on Leo's alternate track concerned with self-actualization.