Mind boggling thoughts

[Shakazulu]

Are thoughts just meanings to preserve the ego? 

[Charlotte]

You assign meaning to the thought, without meaning the thought is no longer fulfilling it's need. Actually, I'm unsure if they are or not. 

 

Edited March 7, 2018 by Charlotte
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[MofO]

@Shakazulu No. You have to have thoughts to experience reality. you have to have a self to experience reality. You have to have thoughts to recollect the source. You have to be to become transcendent. You have to Experience to become Ego-less. You have to Make yourself Move to go back to where you came from. That is why ego is irrespectful of reality. The ego should be transparent to it's reality. That is the Real Ego. Otherwise you are unrequited. By reality that is. Ego is always. There is no such thing as no-ego only inflamed ego or neutral ego. So. It's not ego that makes life difficult. It's understanding of Life which makes the process happen in a intelligent way. Otherwise things don't go YOUR way.

[tecladocasio]

2 hours ago, MofO said:

You have to have thoughts to experience reality

i'm not sure about that @MofO ...

[tsuki]

Thoughts come and go.
If you wish them to come, you regret that they go.
If you wish them gone, you regret that they came.
Thoughts wish and regret.

Edited March 7, 2018 by tsuki

[Shakazulu]

Thanks to all

[Shakazulu]

@Charlotte once we unempower specific meanings, will the thoughts stop serving us/arising? 

[Shakazulu]

Are thoughts the Human beings governer of action? 

[Joseph Maynor]

Thoughts are just things you’re aware of.  All you are is unchanging Awareness.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[tsuki]

28 minutes ago, Shakazulu said:

Are thoughts the Human beings governer of action? 

To think is to perform an action. You do not think to think, do you?
If you do not think to think, then why do you do thinking in order to do doing?
When you move your arm, muscles move by themselves.

Meaning relies on symbols. Symbols like words are things that are something that they are not.
The word-symbol "bird" is not a bird, but a set of letters, and yet - it moves your mind and produces a bird.
There is no "unempowering" meaning, as meaning is not present in symbols. Meaning is you/"I".
 

Edited March 7, 2018 by tsuki

[Charlotte]

2 hours ago, Shakazulu said:

@Charlotte

2 hours ago, Shakazulu said:

@Charlotte

 

2 hours ago, Shakazulu said:

@Charlotte once we unempower specific meanings, will the thoughts stop serving us/arising? 

I find it quite the opposite. Once you become aware of thoughts as just a happening, you no longer assign a meaning. They will stop serving any purpose to you. They will never stop arising, they may become less frequent and they may pass quicker. 

[Faceless]

8 hours ago, MofO said:

You have to Experience to become Ego-less

Experience is a movement of ego/thought. Any movement of ego leads to more ego

[Faceless]

8 hours ago, MofO said:

You have to have thoughts to experience reality

The you and how ‘it’ interprets/experiences reality is all the movement of thought. 

The you is a combination of memory, knowledge, and experience. 

[dorg]

15 hours ago, Shakazulu said:

Are thoughts just meanings to preserve the ego? 

Yes, in the sense that ego, who-you-think-you-are, would not be without personal thought. I mean, you have to (ongoingly) think you are someone somewhere in order to have an experience (and continue it) don't you.

And thoughts are not meanings, they have no meaning unless meaning is taken or assigned to them by someone.

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Mind boggling thoughts

Yes, they sure are. You sure can get confused if you take thoughts about yourself too seriously. And what is too serious? -To really believe that thoughts of and about yourself actually are the case.

I mean, they are only intended to give you an experience, not to make you really believe them

Edited March 7, 2018 by dorg

[Nahm]

Imagine your life without the ego.

[Shakazulu]

@Nahm pure experience?

[Nahm]

@Shakazulu of what? (It was admittedly a koan-ish comment)

[Shakazulu]

@Nahm pure experience of being?

[Nahm]

@Shakazulu yeah, pretty much.