Visualization crucial to change life?

[Rachityczny]

Hey there

A week ago I decided that building healthy and meaningful (intimate) relationships will be my focus for next weeks. For the beginning i chose to get rid of my masturbation/porn addiction. I decided to visualize daily for 30 minutes using "Psycho-Cybernetics" method. I describe the change I want to embody in present tenses, with numerous details, focusing on the positive impact of the new habit.

I used to masturbate 5/7 times a week, and expected massive cravings to do so. But that hasn`t happened so far. Of course I feel a little agitated and anxious when seeing pretty girls in my surroudings, on ads etc. , but this is nothing compared with my previous attempts to deal with masturbation.

I strongly believe this is connected to daily visualizations. I managed to convince myself that change is possible and in fact very beneficial for me.

What do you think about visualizations? Do you think they are crucial for changing life? Do you visualize daily?

[Rinne]

@Rachityczny From my finds it seems to be that the outer world (physical) is a reflection of the inner world. The inner world consist of the predominant thoughts/predominant attitude your entertaining/having. So i guess you could say that it is crucial for changing life. 

[Charlotte]

@Rachityczny Well done! ♥️

Yes I think they are extremely crucial! Very underestimated in my opinion. 

I like the phrase, "We are what we think".

[Ether]

5 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

@Rachityczny Well done! ♥️

Yes I think they are extremely crucial! Very underestimated in my opinion. 

I like the phrase, "We are what we think".

oooo, thare goes the identification!

[Charlotte]

1 minute ago, Ether said:

oooo, thare goes the identification!

So what would be the point in visualisation? You can't just float through life thinking "I'm not the body or the mind so I don't have to do shit"

How are you going to pay your bills? Achieve what you want? We still have real life's to live wether you like it or not ?♥️

[Shin]

?

 

[Ether]

@Charlotte You can take actions with thinking: "Oh, maybe I can do this".

You dont need to be thinking about it constantly.

I dont visualize myself getting hundreds of views on my songs but that still happens lol

i dont visualize myself get awakenigs and that still happens

I dont visualize myself making friends and that still happens.

 

I just take action and think about what is the most "smart" way of doing it but i dont spend all the time thinking about it or take 20 minutes of my day to do that lol

[Charlotte]

8 minutes ago, Shin said:

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@Shin Wouldn't you say imagine and think are two sides of the same coin?

11 minutes ago, Ether said:

@Charlotte You can take actions with thinking: "Oh, maybe I can do this".

You dont need to be thinking about it constantly.

I dont visualize myself getting hundreds of views on my songs but that still happens lol

i dont visualize myself get awakenigs and that still happens

I dont visualize myself making friends and that still happens.

 

I just take action and think about what is the most "smart" way of doing it but i dont spend all the time thinking about it or take 20 minutes of my day to do that lol

But don't you still want all the things you've listed? Do you believe (prior) you can achieve them?

 

10 minutes ago, Ether said:

 

[Ether]

@Charlotte I dont believe i will get them, i know its possible to get them but i cant ever be sure i will get them in the future.

I still got the desire to get them doe

[Shin]

24 minutes ago, Ether said:

@CharlotteCharlottCharlotteCharlo

Thinking is words in your mind.

Imagination has a visual component to it.

 

Imagination is more powerful ?

 

Edited March 4, 2018 by Shin

[starsofclay]

9 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

So what would be the point in visualisation? You can't just float through life thinking "I'm not the body or the mind so I don't have to do shit"

How are you going to pay your bills? Achieve what you want? We still have real life's to live wether you like it or not ?♥️

@Charlotte

It can get  hard to balance sometimes, huh? 

@Rachityczny I'm  so so with visualisations, as far as ability goes... Just one of the many things I'm trying to improve, but I usually forget to practice anyway. One day I'll get my act together and make an improvement plan with a daily calendar and binder and the whole nine yards...  One day... But I will say that whenever I do use it, for example  when I wake up before work and visualize having a good day, it seems to be very effective.  I will say I've found, as someone who was basically in aphantasia when I started, it is much easier to do with a bit of Marijuana, or drug free right when you wake up and are still groggy. Anyway, keep us updated on your progress!

[Ether]

@Shin eh

[Charlotte]

7 minutes ago, Shin said:

Thinking is words in your mind.

Imagination has a visual component to it.

 

Imagination is more powerful ?

 

I actually agree with this because I think in images more so than verbal dialogue and it does feel stronger, more believable let's say.

[ADD]

This is very true. @Shin That's why i love to do visualization meditations occasionally. Imagining a sun right above my head shining in and through my body this clear light energy filling every cell of me. You can actually feel it. It's awesome.

[dorg]

1 hour ago, Shin said:

Thinking is words in your mind.

Imagination has a visual component to it.

 

Imagination is more powerful ?

Funny, I can think via images or imagine via words.

[dorg]

5 hours ago, Rachityczny said:

I strongly believe this is connected to daily visualizations. I managed to convince myself that change is possible and in fact very beneficial for me.

What do you think about visualizations? Do you think they are crucial for changing life? Do you visualize daily?

Pleased you have found something useful for you.

If you already visualise yourself as someone somewhere doing something that you want to change, then visualisations are useful. It gets the mind moving to a different place.

However if you do not priorly see yourself something like this then not much point in them other than for a self induced experience, eg, thinking/imagining (visualising) you are someone on earth.

After all, don't we visualise ourself where we think we are.

And yes I visualise myself where I think/imagine/visualise I am when I do, and when I don't I don't.

Edited March 4, 2018 by dorg

[Rachityczny]

6 hours ago, Rinne said:

@Rachityczny From my finds it seems to be that the outer world (physical) is a reflection of the inner world. The inner world consist of the predominant thoughts/predominant attitude your entertaining/having. So i guess you could say that it is crucial for changing life. 

@Rinne Yes, that`s the reason visualizations work. Mind is the greatest obstacle to overcome.

4 hours ago, Ether said:

I just take action and think about what is the most "smart" way of doing it but i dont spend all the time thinking about it or take 20 minutes of my day to do that lol

@Ether It seems like you are on different level of personal development compared to me. For me it`s really important to motivate myself with a nice, compelling picture, so I move my ass and work on it.

And i want to use my subconscious mind to do the work for me, why not use it, it`s so powerful. Eventually we aren`t really rational, but emotional, our intuition mostly guides our behavior, so it`s vital move to make the intuition work with, not against our real desires.

For me it works like this: conscious mind makes the decision, dedicates to the specific path and delegates the work to the subconsious mind.

4 hours ago, starsofclay said:

@Rachityczny I'm  so so with visualisations, as far as ability goes... Just one of the many things I'm trying to improve, but I usually forget to practice anyway. One day I'll get my act together and make an improvement plan with a daily calendar and binder and the whole nine yards...  One day... But I will say that whenever I do use it, for example  when I wake up before work and visualize having a good day, it seems to be very effective.  I will say I've found, as someone who was basically in aphantasia when I started, it is much easier to do with a bit of Marijuana, or drug free right when you wake up and are still groggy. Anyway, keep us updated on your progress!

@starsofclay

I guess it`s all about practice and habit. I think the first vision isn`t really good, you need to repeat visualizing the same thing at least few times, so it becomes more realistic and detailed. And i don`t really consider myself great at visualization, but it`s getting better and better

The first habit I implemented with the visualizations was learning habit, so I just decided to start everyday at 7 pm, do the visualization, and then start learning. It works great.
Maybe decide and commit yourself 100% to one, most meaningful habit to implement? It seems to me that you make the same mistake I was making over and over again for around a year or so- trying to do all at once. How about being more patient (Leo has vid about it) and dedicated to this one thing, that you really really want?

1 hour ago, dorg said:

Pleased you have found something useful for you.

If you already visualise yourself as someone somewhere doing something that you want to change, then visualisations are useful. It gets the mind moving to a different place.

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After all, don't we visualise ourself where we think we are.

And yes I visualise myself where I think/imagine/visualise I am when I do, and when I don't I don't.

@dorg Thanks!

I visualize the habit I`m currently implementing. This habit is to be an expression of my true desires, and who I really aim to be.

Unfortunately, I haven`t really worked on my spirituality yet, so I can`t relate to last two sentences. Maybe it`s true, maybe it isn`t, but I will surely figure it out when being confident that I`m creator, when having dealt with addictions and so on. If I can`t get shit done, I won`t surely discover the true nature of reality

4 hours ago, Charlotte said:

@Rachityczny Well done! ♥️

Yes I think they are extremely crucial! Very underestimated in my opinion. 

I like the phrase, "We are what we think".

@Charlotte Yes, it`s all about self-image, belief system, or whatever it`s called

 

@Shin Inspirational images! Even Buddha agrees with me

 

My today`s visualization was extraordinarilly fruitful! At the end I just couldn`t resist to smile and laugh. My possibilities seem almost infinite.  Visualization will soon get rid of all my limiting beliefs about relationships!

 

Thank you all for your posts. I will surely tell you how the journey is going!

Edited March 4, 2018 by Rachityczny

[Rachityczny]

Hey there! It`s been a while since this post has been active, but i decided to be honest with you guys.

 

I stopped visualizing for a while. Well, it worked quite well with my studying routine, and the visualizations helped me a bit with my relationships. Unfortunately I hit homeostasis, didn`t manage it properly and after two weeks of weakening resistance, i came back the old way to masturbation.

I also had a small recession into my old addiction, which is computer games, but after 3 very messy days I managed to resist it. Generally speaking I was too impatient with relationships and the pace of the changes, too unconscious, too ignorant.

Well, at least now i`m more conscious of the implications of this addiction on my daily life, and now I know this is certainly a thing to work on.

I did read "The way of the superior man" by David Deida and now digging into "Spiral Dynamics" by Don Beck and Chris Cowan. These books actually reflect my fascinations, so partially it`s a fruit of my quite successful studying visualizations.

If I value my dreams and upcoming results, i should really sit on weekend for a few hours and strategize my life, use the theory I gained recently

 

Anyway, have a good one!

[d0ornokey]

Yes, as leo says, vision is the first step to success 

 

Leo's 5 step process 

1. Always starts with a vision

2. Learning and research phase. You need to figure out how to make this true

3. Hard work phase. You're working hard on your vision

4. Building momentum for a long time. The snowball gets bigger and bigger and bigger

Watch out for uncertainty, doubt, homeostasis, quitting, lack of focus

5. After all that, you get success.

[kieranperez]

This honestly really depends on the change you’re talking about and what you’re shooting for.